ARR Gil Cap Reduction

[Claustrum]

We are being told that removal of arrows from the economy requires them to remove one digit from the amount of gil you can carry, and reduce total gil possessed/introduced.

Could someone please point me to the quote where SE actually says that the removal of arrows from the game is what is forcing them to do this change? It's probably right in front of my face or something, but I've only seen heresay from people so far, and I get the feeling this is one of those self-perpetuating rumors.

It would make vastly more sense that they had to pull arrows from the game because of gil changes, not the other way around. After all, who wants to spend 10 gil per arrow on the newb arrows?

Edit: I read more of it, I get the feeling you don't understand a few concepts. It would be too painful for me to hit all of the points, but I'll just take the low-hanging fruit:

Where I have a problem with this is they should be upfront with us if this is what they are doing.

They are being upfront with us. They told us what they're going to do, and they still haven't done it yet. According to you, we also already know why they did it. What more do you want?

[Rannie]

Could someone please point me to the quote where SE actually says that the removal of arrows from the game is what is forcing them to do this change? It's probably right in front of my face or something, but I've only seen heresay from people so far, and I get the feeling this is one of those self-perpetuating rumors.

It would make vastly more sense that they had to pull arrows from the game because of gil changes, not the other way around. After all, who wants to spend 10 gil per arrow on the newb arrows?

it does say it i was going to ask the same thing but it does

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...748#post831748

it is the fourth black paragraph

[Alerith]

I believe Dubont. I believe he can't get parties.

Because nobody wants to play with him, and it's obvious as to why.

I totally believe him.

[Ratm3000]

Its a slap in the face I think...but at least our gil isn't going to become "dated" come 2.0. I don't see why they have reduce the cap on the gil and why they reducing every ones gil count. They said gil would remain as is come 2.0 and they spring this up a long with a lot of other bs changes...just feels like a downgraded game.

[Duuude007]

Its like trading gil for G|L.
The overall amount is worth exactly the same, but each individual G|L is worth 10 times as much, and is 10 times more difficult to earn.

[Niqote]

Its like trading gil for G|L.
The overall amount is worth exactly the same, but each individual G|L is worth 10 times as much, and is 10 times more difficult to earn.

...My G|L is worth more then anyone's Gil. /snicker

[Claustrum]

Ah, now I see it. Thanks, Rannie. Now I get the fun task of trying to make this make sense in my head... how does that even work?

[Rannie]

Ah, now I see it. Thanks, Rannie. Now I get the fun task of trying to make this make sense in my head... how does that even work?

the most i can think of is that's one of the reasons why but not all of it they've been silent about a lot of things until the live letter but *shrugs* I'm not a mind reader no matter how much witchcraft i practice lol. and you're welcome ^_^ though they do say they have no other agenda for it but like i said that sometimes isn't 100% true *shrugs*


edit: LOL i just read Gildrien's edit note too... Camate got edited by a mod lol sorry i find that amusing some how

[Mireille]

the most i can think of is that's one of the reasons why but not all of it they've been silent about a lot of things until the live letter but *shrugs* I'm not a mind reader no matter how much witchcraft i practice lol. and you're welcome ^_^ though they do say they have no other agenda for it but like i said that sometimes isn't 100% true *shrugs*


edit: LOL i just read Gildrien's edit note too... Camate got edited by a mod lol sorry i find that amusing some how

This I agree with. I am not trying to argue that SE is being malicious in doing this in fact far from it. I believe they genuinely want all aspects of ARR to work including the economy, and I think they did learn a lot from the problems with XI. I firmly believe they want to avoid XI's problem with rmt.

I feel they could handle the impact to those players who spent a lot of effort on gil making better. The 10s of millions I will loose in this in no way shape or form will be as easily remade as the 300 gil one of my friends is loosing. One 50 leve and he will be back where he started, but with the new economy it may take me years to get back to where I am now. My friend has focused all his play time getting his/our LS stuff instead of getting stuff for himself so I am happy he is loosing nothing in this, but at the same time its a bit absurd to call it equitable for everyone. Making economic adjustments is fine, but they need to take into account that players who invested time and effort in making gil instead of spamming Garuda, or AV are getting the short end of the stick in this process.

I'm not an economist, but I do think that when you add in the population changes, world transfers, and the new gil sinks like housing, the result will be an economic model that is much more complicated than their simple fractional math leads us to believe. Those fraction just get us to a starting point in ARR.