ARR Gil Cap Reduction

[stanleyyoung]

Stanley that's pretty much what a lot of us are saying yet some people aren't comprehending that at all even when given examples their brains are screaming, "NO THAT'S NOT TRUEEEEE THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!" (now imagine that with Luke Skywalker's voice .... i've watched Empire strikes back too many times..) Basically they're not wanting to see fact as it is and taking it as a personal affront to them because how dare Yoshi-P try to do something that will help the overall economy of the game

exactly i felt the same way but as few days went by i got over it and said if its going to make 2.0 better then why not. SE from a business stand point see's this needs to happen and we all know why since the newcomers will have little to no chance in getting started and then just give up and quit. many ppl claim massive amounts of ppl will quit once this happens which when it does really doesn't matter to SE since their target audience is hundreds of thousands to even millions of new ppl. would it really hurt if they loose lets say 15k ppl roughly by taking away their gil and hindering them from over pricing items in 2.0 or let them keep their gil and piss off the possible huge audience their trying to get? its a simple dollars choice piss off 15k ppl and keep 500k happy or more or let 15k ppl stay happy and piss off 500k just for an example.

and once i heard this from SE i really got a kick in the ass (after getting over my disappointment)to buy gear, since its easy to get gil via farming, items to npc them or craft with or sell on wards along with leves spam.

[Duuude007]

To those who dislike this change, what do you think would happen if they instead made the cap increased by one decimal?

You would change 10 mil to 100 mil

but that 100 mil would come with it a huge inflation. More money? higher prices.
case in point: Atomos farming.

Effectively printing money.

^ The scenario above is exactly the same as what Yoshi-P plans to do for us, in every way except how complex a larger $ amount is. That's it.

[Dubont]

To those who dislike this change, what do you think would happen if they instead made the cap increased by one decimal?

You would change 10 mil to 100 mil

but that 100 mil would come with it a huge inflation. More money? higher prices.
case in point: Atomos farming.

Effectively printing money.

^ The scenario above is exactly the same as what Yoshi-P plans to do for us, in every way except how complex a larger $ amount is. That's it.

you can decrease the cap without taking someone's money.

[Shougun]

you can decrease the cap without taking someone's money.

Actually there are people at max gil, if you decreased the cap without taking a % at the sametime then those really rich people would have lost nine hundred million gil.

The 1/10 is to ensure everyone maintains the same amount of wealth whether you are poor or rich.

[Duuude007]

you can decrease the cap without taking someone's money.

really? you mean just lower the ceiling and hope those with 100+ mil dont accidentally forget to transfer to retainer? that would be a huge PR mistake. and the inflation still runs rampant regardless. stuff would still cost 45m, gil would be just as easy to earn, people would just hit cap faster.

Where does future growth occur?

Please consider how your suggestion is actually way more complex than SE handing you a million dimes for your 10 million pennies. The wealth you have does not change, merely the value of each individual gil.

Earning 1 million gil in 2.0 will be exactly as difficult as earning 10 million gil right now. (ignoring the Atomos factor)

[Dubont]

really? you mean just lower the ceiling and hope those with 100+ mil dont accidentally forget to transfer to retainer? that would be a huge PR mistake. and the inflation still runs rampant regardless. stuff would still cost 45m, gil would be just as easy to earn, people would just hit cap faster.

Where does future growth occur?

Please consider how your suggestion is actually way more complex than SE handing you a million dimes for your 10 million pennies. The wealth you have does not change, merely the value of each individual gil.

Earning 1 million gil in 2.0 will be exactly as difficult as earning 10 million gil right now. (ignoring the Atomos factor)

You keep claiming that gil is easy to get, yet I have seen no way of getting "easy gil" other than the recent atomos crap. I also don't know of anyone with max gil...so..that point is invalid.

[Aion]

You keep claiming that gil is easy to get, yet I have seen no way of getting "easy gil" other than the recent atomos crap. I also don't know of anyone with max gil...so..that point is invalid.

um...what? cant be serious

[Rannie]

You keep claiming that gil is easy to get, yet I have seen no way of getting "easy gil" other than the recent atomos crap. I also don't know of anyone with max gil...so..that point is invalid.

hmmm easy way to get gil get a group of people and if you have a lvl 50 job go and spam 50 leves you also do know that there is an achievement in this game right now to get 100k from one leve and it's a series of faction leves that you do. I can sit there and spam those level 50 leves with ls members and make around 100k or more depending on how long we do it ... actually as it is all the money i have made currently has been either from selling materia or spamming leves for the achievements. Even setting the leves at a 1 star setting you get damn around 5-10k depending on the leve. People also go out and farm or do mass crafting. That's how EASY it is to make money in the game.

[DemonFury]

You keep claiming that gil is easy to get, yet I have seen no way of getting "easy gil" other than the recent atomos crap. I also don't know of anyone with max gil...so..that point is invalid.

the reason you don't see any easy way to make gil is due to the fact you do not have a single craft ranked up to 50 nor do you have a single gathering class ranked up to 50 so in essence you don't have any easy way to make gil ... all this time you claim to spend on the game with nothing to do because its jp time could be spending ranking up a craft that will help you to make gil alot faster but instead you sit here complaining about it on the forums so why don't you stop posting on these forums and go rank up least one craft with your nothing to do during jp time

[Duuude007]

Go ahead and try to sell a relic weapon at half the cap gil in 2.0. Id wager zero people will purchase it, seeing that the chances of getting that much are extraordinarily low, while 45-55 mil are viable now due to atomos inflation.