ARR Gil Cap Reduction

[Duuude007]

The only people that are fine with this are the poor ones. The people that have busted their chops making a bank for themselves are the ones that suffer. Thanks for punishing your core players, SE

What punishment? anyone with 99 mil in ARR will be exactly as close to hyper expensive content as they are right now.

[Issachar]

Your chops are worth the same amount, I am however sorry you don't understand fractions.

What punishment? anyone with 99 mil in ARR will be exactly as close to hyper expensive content as they are right now.

Wishful thinking. Every time the worth of gil fluctuated in FFXI, it was highway robbery for the longest time. You think just because gil gets dropped down to 10%, that people will adjust their wares' rates accordingly? No, things are going to get more expensive. Whats 500k now will probably be 200-300k then.

You can do your theorycrafting all you want, and your would-be-should-be math, but it won't change reality.

[Quatre]

You are hopeless. You are getting your 10 1 dollar bills taken away and given a 10 dollar bill and screaming "NO! ITS NOT AS MANY MONEYZ SO IT CANT BE AS GOOD!"


And your time ISNT wasted. You're still going to have a relatively large amount of money more than other players if you've been money making. Not only is the entire gil in the economy being reduced by 90%, but all of the sources to make that money are being reduced by 90%.

You have a 10 dollar bill now, not 10 ones. There should be no emotional loss, or disparaging feelings of any kind.

[Deakka]

My brain can't handle all the people who don't understand this change...

It just can't. It's almost like you guys who are fighting it just got out of a Romney rally, and you're ready to start putting the poor in stocks because your net value changed 0%!

[Obsy]

Reiterating what someone else already said:

"We're turning your 4 quarters into 1 dollar."
"Wait, 1 is less than 4, I'm losing my hard-earned money!"

They are literally, LITERALLY doing this and only this, ladies and gentlemen.

"...but what if people continue to sell items for 8,000,000 quarters like before?!"

Welp, we'll see how long their prices stay that high, won't we?
(Spoiler Alert: Not very long.)

[Enri]

So you're telling us this whole 2 years have been a waste of effort?!
You say (Yoshi-P) this is to make it easier for future players but...
It's impossible to make it fair! Most of us have all jobs in lvl 50 (or at least battle ones)
You say we won't even sense it since the NPC pries are adjusting too...but what about all the people that made money working hard and selling items at the Auction House?! Are you going to tell me the price of the STR material Lv 4 is going to drop from 200k to 20k just because the NPC buys things at lower price? Don't fool yourselves... And please don't try to fool us that have been playing your game all along.

I'm sorry to say this, but you don't play with people's money, not even with in game money. Whenever a government (like mine) takes away peoples savings from the bank, you don't expect people not to be outraged. It's pretty much the same here. We invested time (at least i play 8 hours per day or more). We invested money (remember all those months we payed to play?... And now you take the money we earned through these two years?!

Some of us have been here since it began, with all the bugs, the crappy system, and the prices were wrong too! Then you fixed them, without touching players money. Yes, there was people that took advantage of those pricings, but everyone did their best to keep up!

If you take away our money, you might as well take away the EXP some made because of the PL bug.
Oh, and take the items some earned by killing Garuda when it was bugged.
And don't forget Ifrit, it was bugged too.
You try to be fair with new players, but you nevel actually will, so why piss off the players that have been supporting this game with all it's problems?

[Duuude007]

Are you going to tell me the price of the STR material Lv 4 is going to drop from 200k to 20k just because the NPC buys things at lower price?

No, not JUST because the NPC buys things at lower price. Also because every gil that you can earn from quests, leves and other content will also be 10x more difficult to earn. And everyone's wealth willl be proportionally equal to what it is right now. If someone ignores the change, well, good luck finding a willing buyer.

No change of note is being made with this recalculation of gil value.

[Deakka]

So you're telling us this whole 2 years have been a waste of effort?!
You say (Yoshi-P) this is to make it easier for future players but...
It's impossible to make it fair! Most of us have all jobs in lvl 50 (or at least battle ones)
You say we won't even sense it since the NPC pries are adjusting too...but what about all the people that made money working hard and selling items at the Auction House?! Are you going to tell me the price of the STR material Lv 4 is going to drop from 200k to 20k just because the NPC buys things at lower price? Don't fool yourselves... And please don't try to fool us that have been playing your game all along.

I'm sorry to say this, but you don't play with people's money, not even with in game money. Whenever a government (like mine) takes away peoples savings from the bank, you don't expect people not to be outraged. It's pretty much the same here. We invested time (at least i play 8 hours per day or more). We invested money (remember all those months we payed to play?... And now you take the money we earned through these two years?!

Some of us have been here since it began, with all the bugs, the crappy system, and the prices were wrong too! Then you fixed them, without touching players money. Yes, there was people that took advantage of those pricings, but everyone did their best to keep up!

If you take away our money, you might as well take away the EXP some made because of the PL bug.
Oh, and take the items some earned by killing Garuda when it was bugged.
And don't forget Ifrit, it was bugged too.
You try to be fair with new players, but you nevel actually will, so why piss off the players that have been supporting this game with all it's problems?

Ok I think I'm just going to stay away from the forums for a bit. This is just getting silly.

In your example of strength materia IV, when player's can't afford 200k str IV materia, the price will eventually drop. The few people who have the resources and time capable of cornering a market will have to face an improved market ward system (which won't have people blocked from posting items due to retainer space capacities in the ward). The new element into the market won't be savy investor/players trying to corner a market. It'll be the normal player looking to unload gear so they can afford more. They will gladly undercut to make a sale. The undercutting and price gouging will eventually balance itself out until we find the items true value. The raw fact that you'll have more sellers will almost guarantee prices to drop.

You're not losing anything, you're still going to have a dominant advantage over other players (if you're to be believed on your gil balance). New players will be gaining gil at 1/10th the pace that current players are now, and they'll be selling their items at 1/10th the pace that items are being sold at now eventually. You'll just see a cap of 8 numbers now instead of 9.

Brb need whiskey

[TimonLoon]

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[Quatre]

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