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    Quote Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra View Post
    Anyone who understands this... any sellers who understand this
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    Anyone who knows how it works will immediately drop their prices
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    the few who understand how it works will have absolutely no trouble putting things up for 10% of what they used to be because anything greater is a rip off.
    Please don't insult my intelligence by thinking I don't know what redenomination is. BUT you and I both have pointed out the same thing, that the mass populace will not immediately and knowingly drop their prices to 10% of what they used to be. People aren't going to be like "OH! It's 2.0, mark everything down 90% if I want it to sell!" In a perfect world, that'd be what would happen, but no, vendors will test the waters to see what they can get away selling it for first.

    If I have an item worth millions, my first reaction isn't going to be drop it down to a couple hundred thousand. I'm going to start by dropping it a mil or two... wait.. see if it sells(and god help the markets if it does sell and prices stay up), then lower it another mil. This will take time for prices to balance. Now, if this redenomination happens, I have a feeling that new gear from 2.0 will be put up at prices that reflect the redenomination, maybe a little higher because they're new.

    But still, in the time that it takes for everything to level out you have new players who cannot buy gear and old players who are pissed off that "wealthy" suddenly means having 100k+ gil(which I can't think of any game that that's the case). These are two things that SE cannot afford to have! They need a player base. If they don't get it right going in to 2.0, the people who are giving this a second chance are just going to laugh and leave. SE doesn't have two weeks or a month or two months for the markets to balance. There was a wall of threads raging about 2.0 grass Noctis, do you really trust the intelligence of this community to accept that 90% of their money is "gone" with dignity and grace in an orderly emotionless fashion?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sounsyy View Post
    There was a wall of threads raging about 2.0 grass Noctis, do you really trust the intelligence of this community to accept that 90% of their money is "gone" with dignity and grace in an orderly emotionless fashion?
    The forums are a vocal minority for the most part. Ignore them
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    Quote Originally Posted by KiraHime View Post
    The forums are a vocal minority for the most part.
    Vocal minority does not mean that their opinions are in the minority.
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    Last edited by Sounsyy; 09-17-2012 at 11:08 PM.

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    Also - The gil cap wont be reached sooner with a lower cap, as all gil rewards and costs will be adjusted in a similar manner. This is not some massively complicated adjustment if you all take a second to look at the big picture rather than short-sightedly looking at your insignificant gil count
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    @ Sounsy

    What Kira said.

    Also, I never said it'd happen across the whole populace immediately. I even said in 1 post there will be a transitional period for prices to readjust and even predicted in other posts how some people will drop a bit and see who bites first. You went through the trouble of quoting me so much, how did you manage to miss those?
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    Perhaps.

    What you see on the forums sure as hell doesn't represent the majority though. This isn't the first major change we've been through where people went crazy on the forums first.
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    This is very true. Admittedly all we can do is wait, but I guarantee that when that same majority who doesn't read/participate in the forums logs in to 2.0 on day one full of excitement, but see that their 8mil is now 800k, their first thought won't be "oh this is clearly a redenomination, let me go check the nearest npc vendor to be sure" but more of a "WTF WHAT HAPPENED TO MY GIL? SE LOST MY GIL!"
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    I agree that redenomination of gil is a good idea, and this game desperately needs it. I'm simply worried about player reaction and what that could do in the big picture of re-launching this game successfully.
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    I agree with Meatdawg and similar postings.

    You're not losing any gil. Think of it as an exchange. 10 1.0 gil = 1 ARR gil (Insert Gath Joke)
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    To all the people that said myself, Meatdawg, and others were "stupid" or "trolls"...

    I'm not saying I told you so, but... I told you so :P
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