Forgive and Forget v2

[Jovy]

What am I going to do, throw in a 55 damage profundity when it's up? Maybe we need to scrap the way we damage altogether. We lose a lot of DPS just waiting on regimen stragglers.

Errr.... i dont kow if you have a mage job or not but on ureaus u can do any where from 45 - 200+ dmg on it. Maybe you should look into that. This is not to blast you or your mages, just a suggestion to solve your dps problems.

[FilthyDisco]

Do you all really have nothing better to do then sit here all day and talk shit on other people? How about you guys mature up a bit and take your personal beefs to /tell in the game. No one wants to hear this shit on the forums, you all sound like a bunch of high school girls. Lock this thread and move on with your lives.

[LilBaller]

Dips has always been low on the DPS side. That's our achilles and will be until we convert our glad and mage glut to DPS jobs. Right now we live and die by battle regimens. Only way for us to smoothly kill NMs. Other shells seem to just ranger rangers on their rangers like they learned to in FFXI, and unfortunately it works better than any real tactics just like in FFXI. Do I respect that kind of fad job kill? No. Not when relying on crutch and fad jobs is used as a surrogate for skill.

So we show up and see one shell fighting the great buffalo this week. 4 rangers just spamming crap on it, it's trapped in a rock and not even hitting the tank. Is that the skill we're supposed to be looking for?

We show up to dodore and see another shell with eyes all over the place, facing every which-a-way, running back and forth and back and forth to the crystal, dodore dies because the only stable thing in this whole Benny Hill circus is a gladiator, two rangers, and a conjurer on dodore...then the whole team just chickenwusses it out of there when dodore goes down. Is that the skill we're supposed to admire?

Marauders in cowls at great buffalo. How about that skill?

Low-manning isn't about skill, let's cut the pretenses here. We have better gear than most other endgame shells. Somehow, and this is really the odd thing, we wear appropriate gear to the fights. We use better battle regimens. We put on more incpacitations. But our job mix is not good, and it shows.

Some of our members deserved to eat that crow, yes. We clearly aren't as good a performance shell as some of them insisted. But don't act like it's a skill issue. Federation of Windurst can bumble through Uraeus with no regimens, no defined tank, and dropped protect and shells and didn't rage it. We fought it like a smooth machine and it raged. Skill is not determining the outcomes of these fights. Rangers are.

1 glad 3 rangers and 2 conjurers can whip our 8 man team thoroughly, no matter how poorly they play or how well we do. We know that. You all know that.

Too many mages. Too many gladiators. And some **** talkers that just got pwned. Now we only have two issues to work on.

on moscow we used to have 30+ people every NM night, people would join in and outa group, so sometimes we had a couple arcs, sometimes we didn't, i wouldn't call that "cheating", i would call that playing the game, and all NM LS are geared to hell so idk where ur pulling that dips are better geared then most end game LSs, also i haven't been in a NM fight where mages didn't pitch in on dps for over 3 months now so it helps, just fyi

[LilBaller]

On any given NM night my INT is 105 and PIE is like 80. That's after a respec. My profundity tier II's do like 59 damage to uraeus witha jade crook+1 and mythril choker on. Blood rites do like 30. Basic nukes do 0 most of the time. I want to say my spirid darts do 11-25. I could have made up the difference in Uraeus' remaning HP over that 30 minutes though, and I don't have an excuse for not doing it.

If left to my own natural devices my PIE drops to 1 though. As a primary goldsmither, you're naturally aligned to be a DPS mage. As a blacksmither, I'm aligned to healing.

my water 2/wind 2 does great dps to NMs

[XenoZero]

So we show up and see one shell fighting the great buffalo this week. 4 rangers just spamming crap on it, it's trapped in a rock and not even hitting the tank. Is that the skill we're supposed to be looking for?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5K3bFQvY1BM

You mean that trap? who cares, we did what works. and we succeeded. kudos to anyone else who can do the same trick

[Jormungand]

To make al dente pasta always cook it for -1 minute of the recommended time that the bag asks for.

[Hypnotoad]

ITT Geo aka Xeno Zero trolls people.

He did a good job too.

[XenoZero]

ITT Geo aka Xeno Zero trolls people.

He did a good job too.

ooh, you found me :/

[Baccanale]

Greetings, players!
I appreciate the comments that most of you have made to discuss the game and your battle strategies that you consider when participating in linkshells. Unfortunately, it seems that the thread has gone off the main topic quite often, so this thread will now be closed. Please try to keep in mind that it helps the forum community as a whole if players stay on topic. Using posts to launch personal attacks against other players or just to make random remarks prevents others that are looking for advice from getting the help that they need, which leads to further frustration and negative feelings in general in the forums. Again, thank you for your participation, and I wish you all the best of luck!