Petition: Keep the Animation!~

[Zaireeka2025]

people would seriously rather have jiggles and wiggles delay their actions than have more immediate response?

People are weird....

They only people that are weird are the ones who buy the "story" that animations must be waited upon to make the next attempt at a move. Animations are very flexible in that you can override or blend them instantly with a new animation. Is FFXIV the only MMO you people have played?

[Alhanelem]

there is no reason that these jiggles and wiggles should be delaying any actions. they chose not to spend time making it right.

There absolutely is a reason. Unless you want the action to take place before the action's animation even plays, then yes, we do need to wait for the jiggles and wiggles.

[IveraIvalice]

There absolutely is a reason. Unless you want the action to take place before the action's animation even plays, then yes, we do need to wait for the jiggles and wiggles.

im saying that i dont want the action to be preformed before my animation even plays, it sounds like thats what your wanting, because the little extra animations can and should be able to be canceled, which eliminates animation lock.

They are the largest and one of the most successful gaming companies in the world. There is a reason they do the things they do, its not just to piss off whiney gamers that like to cry over animations.

i didnt say that they are just trying to piss people off, what they did was a smart choice, IF they had to choose between polish and gameplay. gameplay wins, theres no doubt. but there is no i repeat NO technical reason why both shouldnt be possible, polish and gameplay can be achieved. they chose gameplay because of time constraints.
they dont have time to do polish and gameplay. thats why they chose what they did.
from a technical standpoint its good, from an overall standpoint, meaning the overall finished game, its not good, it makes the game look unfinished

EDIT: some people are fine with that because there used to it from other games and are more focused on gameplay, which is cool.
but im a 3D artist, i make my living off of those jiggles and wiggles, and its why i got into this industry, for the visuals, and it sucks to see it go, i would really prefer it not to lose that polish. i know im not the only one

[Biggs]

im saying that i dont want the action to be preformed before my animation even plays, it sounds like thats what your wanting, because the little extra animations can and should be able to be canceled, which eliminates animation lock.


i didnt say that they are just trying to piss people off, what they did was a smart choice, IF they had to choose between polish and gameplay. gameplay wins, theres no doubt. but there is no i repeat NO technical reason why both shouldnt be possible, polish and gameplay can be achieved. they chose gameplay because of time constraints.
they dont have time to do polish and gameplay. thats why they chose what they did.
from a technical standpoint its good, from an overall standpoint, meaning the overall finished game, its not good, it makes the game look unfinished

I agree with everything your saying if this was a normal situation in which they had 5 years to work on the game. Given the ridiculious amount of time they recreated this game in from the ground up, I would say that, from what I have seen so far, they did a pretty smokin job in the short time they had to work with. That being said, the developers even stated in the hour long video that they didnt even want to show what they had developed at gamescon because it doesnt accuratly portray what the game will look like a few months from now. Never have I heard a developer say anything close to that during a press conference. I think everyone needs to just relax on the whole issue until AT LEAST the beta begins and we get a better idea what we are looking at as far as a finished product goes. Gamescon was barely a month ago, and it looks like they have a few more months of development before we see a beta.

[IveraIvalice]

I agree with everything your saying if this was a normal situation in which they had 5 years to work on the game. Given the ridiculious amount of time they recreated this game in from the ground up, I would say that, from what I have seen so far, they did a pretty smokin job in the short time they had to work with. That being said, the developers even stated in the hour long video that they didnt even want to show what they had developed at gamescon because it doesnt accuratly portray what the game will look like a few months from now. Never have I heard a developer say anything close to that during a press conference. I think everyone needs to just relax on the whole issue until AT LEAST the beta begins and we get a better idea what we are looking at as far as a finished product goes. Gamescon was barely a month ago, and it looks like they have a few more months of development before we see a beta.

they did do a great job and im excited for ARR, and i respect the dev team greatly for all they've done, i wish i could have been a part of it myself lol.
but it sounds like it was a confimed decision to take out these animations, which sounds like its not in there list of things to do and it wont come back. im hoping that they will see that people do want these animations and choose to allot some extra time to put these back on their task list.
your right that its unfinished and there is still more to be done, but if we wait till beta with no sign of these getting implemented then at that time its most likely too late. best to let them know now so plans can be made in a timely manner

[Biggs]

they did do a great job and im excited for ARR, and i respect the dev team greatly for all they've done, i wish i could have been a part of it myself lol.
but it sounds like it was a confimed decision to take out these animations, which sounds like its not in there list of things to do and it wont come back. im hoping that they will see that people do want these animations and choose to allot some extra time to put these back on their task list.
your right that its unfinished and there is still more to be done, but if we wait till beta with no sign of these getting implemented then at that time its most likely too late. best to let them know now so plans can be made in a timely manner

So you, and everyone else here complaining about it, if this is the final product, are willing to wait another 6 months to a year from march or w/e this was going to launch for them to impliment what your talking about? That would kill business in both the current version of the game, and create a situation in which they would have months of no new content added to 1.0 while we wait for them to add that. I don't understand why people can't grasp that in a ridiculously short development schedule, certain things had to be ignored or not done that would normally have been taken care of with more time in order to meet the deadline they set for the rebuild. You all want years of total development done in the same amount of time with nothing given up in return. Its sort of ludacris. In this particular case maybe they went with content over graphics with what little time they had. If it wasnt this issue and they had gone with something else instead to skip on in order to save time, there would be all sorts of threads bitching about that.

I for one can't say if it payed off or not until i play the finished product, but if that is indeed what was done, I would go with more content over the few miliseconds of animation missing everyone is complaining about. Nothing to do but wait and see. The notion though that we should have it all AND have it in a year seems selfish to me. Considering 1.0's graphics were phenom and the game tanked and here we are now bitching about graphics when instead they are giving us what we asked for (content) seems ass backwards to me. They are damned if they do and damned if they dont.

[HiirNoivl]

You know, if they had explained their decision a little more we wouldn't have to guess. Maybe they will in the live letter.

[Seif]

I don't think we are asking the right questions here.

Why do we even have to choose between 2 bad choices. Hell I'll say it. Plenty of action games nail the balance between good animations and controls. XIV isn't even an action game and they present this as an either/or choice. I call BS. make it play well and look good and (SE) stop making excuses until both goals are achieved.

Every game I've worked on during the past 6 years has had the same challenges of getting these 2 to meet. I've never heard an animator nor game designers say "AH SCREW IT LET'S NOT HAVE YOU DO YOUR PART ON THE GAME!!! Too much trouble/money/skill required!"

[lololink]

I don't think we are asking the right questions here.

Why do we even have to choose between 2 bad choices. Hell I'll say it. Plenty of action games nail the balance between good animations and controls. XIV isn't even an action game and they present this as an either/or choice. I call BS. make it play well and look good and (SE) stop making excuses until both goals are achieved.

Every game I've worked on during the past 6 years has had the same challenges of getting these 2 to meet. I've never heard an animator nor game designers say "AH SCREW IT LET'S NOT HAVE YOU DO YOUR PART ON THE GAME!!! Too much trouble/money/skill required!"

Because SE don't give them enough time / money

[Koumoru]

I really want them to keep the animations. I think the ones that are saying the animations are not important might change thier mind after launch. I think they add subtle things that people won't appriciate till its gone.