Arcanist/Summoner Abilities and Traits

[Wicka]

I like speculation and theorycraft. I am also excited about a pet class (especially Puppetmaster, but arcanist will do). I will switch my main class over to Arcanist simply because I love pet classes.

So I was wondering if anybody had any thoughts on how pet classes will/should/could work in XIV. I vaguely remember a thread back when Arcanist was announce where I speculated that instead of summoning primals, the Arcanist would summon their essences and meld them with Carby. So you could get like a red, firey Carby with Ifrit's essence, and so on. Unless I misunderstood, that is pretty much how Yoshi said it would work in this last letter, right?

So for anybody who is excited about arcanist/summoner, what abilities do you think might work in XIV. I played Pup in XI and never touched Sum, so i don't have much experience in that arena.

It sounds like DoTs will be the primary shtick for ARN. I wonder if those DoTs will originate from the player-character like spells, or if most of your abilities will be channeled through Carby. I also wonder how much control we will have over Carby's actions. You had limited control over your puppets actions in XI through use of maneuvers, but for the most part they just did their thing and you kind of influenced their decisions a bit.

Thoughts?

[Shougun]

SMN in FFXI.. not a pet class >.> lol

(They are.. but how they were used was usually not the way it was originally made for XD *When I was playing* (stopped before WotG)).

I think that Arcanist is going to get the DoT's that were removed from THM early on like scourge. (Ones used by the enemy still)

Were we told if the summons will drain mp while active?

[Alhanelem]

Frankly I'm most excited about the idea of whacking a friend upside the head with the book weapons in PvP (just for the amusement value, not because it would be "good"). >.>

Not much of a theorycrafter, but in XI you had a lot more control over the puppet than you're suggesting. A good PUP can get its automaton to do whatever he wants (once a few glaring issues were sorted out). I'm willing to bet that you'll give direct commands more like XI summoner just hopefully without the horrible cooldowns.

[Renen]

I heard that i actually summon the primals. As Summoner has no access to carby.

[Shougun]

I heard that i actually summon the primals. As Summoner has no access to carby.

They summon aspects of the primals and that the true primal summons are accomplished by a FC killing the primal.

[Velhart]

They summon aspects of the primals and that the true primal summons are accomplished by a FC killing the primal.

I'm only going to count this as a theory, but due to the nature of the difficulty of your FC defeating the primal so a person in your party can summon their essence sounds far-fetched. It sounds more logical that you fight primals through the SMN quest line, making them placed story events instead of trying to hunt them (Especially if you are lv.30, if they give it to you that early.). This would make more sense to me.

I forgot, I know Ifrit is confirmed, but who is did they confirm as summons? I think Garuda was the other.

[Shougun]

I'm only going to count this as a theory, but due to the nature of the difficulty of your FC defeating the primal so a person in your party can summon their essence sounds far-fetched. It sounds more logical that you fight primals through the SMN quest line, making them placed story events instead of trying to hunt them (Especially if you are lv.30, if they give it to you that early.). This would make more sense to me.

I forgot, I know Ifrit is confirmed, but who is did they confirm as summons? I think Garuda was the other.

The quote is so old I dont want to find it but I assure you that there was at least official speak of summoning a "true" summon. And it had to do with finding a roaming primal and whooping it. There was only one of the true primals available so only one group could really summon it. Once summoned you lost control and it went back to the wild.

[Velhart]

The quote is so old I dont want to find it but I assure you that there was at least official speak of summoning a "true" summon. And it had to do with finding a roaming primal and whooping it. There was only one of the true primals available so only one group could really summon it. Once summoned you lost control and it went back to the wild.

I didn't mean the primals themselves, I meant the SMN's ability to summon primals. It would be unfair if one job had such an extreme task to get all their abilities compared to other jobs who get all their AF/abilities by doing storyline quests that involve no competition.

[Reika]

The quote is so old I dont want to find it but I assure you that there was at least official speak of summoning a "true" summon. And it had to do with finding a roaming primal and whooping it. There was only one of the true primals available so only one group could really summon it. Once summoned you lost control and it went back to the wild.

That is just something he was thinking about tho. I think they plan to have 'lesser' elemental summons after all, and maybe do the whole primal thing as an extra.

[Alhanelem]

I heard that i actually summon the primals. As Summoner has no access to carby.

That's not correct, because the Job has access to all the abilities of the Class.