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    Quote Originally Posted by HiirNoivl View Post
    In FFXIV: ARR there will be no question that this is a Final Fantasy MMO. Not only is the aesthetics gorgeous and detailed, using a top of the line game graphics engine, there are all the components and parts that are being borrowed from the decades long Final Fantasy lore.
    I'll quote the rest of the paragraph then. Blocky movements, awkward jumps, and samey animated WS/Spells/Abilities that we will have, you know, the aesthetics (not graphics) are not "gorgeous and detailed." You, me, Rokien, and Rukkiri said they were going out the window in favor of playability. You meant graphics, which DO look gorgeous and detailed. Holy wow they look great. No sarcasm.

    Speaking of which, nowhere did it say the animations got in the way of playability. They likely just tossed them out so they could focus on other things. Which, in retrospect, is an ok idea, but I am still bewildered as to why they would get rid of them in the first place. I think I can wait until November 12th if it takes one more day to make my character look like a real person rather than a toon in an MMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HiirNoivl View Post
    The stop motion may have been unique, but don't forget that what people complained about at launch was like how non-Final Fantasy-like FFXIV was. Sure it was the prettiest most animated MMO at the time, but there were no airships no chocobos, no real moogles (except in the FF quests) that would make you even aware you were playing a FFXIV game.

    In FFXIV: ARR there will be no question that this is a Final Fantasy MMO. Not only is the aesthetics gorgeous and detailed, using a top of the line game graphics engine, there are all the components and parts that are being borrowed from the decades long Final Fantasy lore.

    Saying that taking out the stop motion and other minor animations will make it just like every other MMO, that FFXIV will no longer be unique is also not taking into account the big picture.

    And that's what's going on here. The removal of this single tree has made people blind to the bigger trees that are coming and staying.

    Edit: Nemy, you need to click on the links provided by Gramul, the review of the animations are glowing. Really, it llooks like a Korean MMO if you agree that Korean MMOs look awesome.
    FIRST OF ALL

    What does chocobos, and everything else you just said has to do with animation, PEOPLE LIKED THE ANIMATION. NOBODY, I DON'T KNOW ANYONE, who wanted the animations taken out. The only reason why animation lock is bad is because the server lag, yet, people are beating every content with animation lock. So, that is not a big deal, just take out the lag, which 2.0 will fix!

    I'm sorry I don't want my game to FEEL(notice I didn't say look, the graphics are amazing) cheap, I'm paying for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokien View Post
    FIRST OF ALL

    What does chocobos, and everything else you just said has to do with animation, PEOPLE LIKED THE ANIMATION. NOBODY, I DON'T KNOW ANYONE, who wanted the animations taken out. The only reason why animation lock is bad is because the server lag, yet, people are beating every content with animation lock. So, that is not a big deal, just take out the lag, which 2.0 will fix!

    I'm sorry I don't want my game to FEEL(notice I didn't say look, the graphics are amazing) cheap, I'm paying for it.
    Maybe if you READ all the POSTS you would KNOW what I was REFERRING to.

    People were SAYING that the ANIMATIONS were what made the game UNIQUE. When in TRUTH unless you had the BOX sitting there in FRONT of you, you would have NEVER known what GAME you were PLAYING.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HiirNoivl View Post
    Maybe if you READ all the POSTS you would KNOW what I was REFERRING to.

    People were SAYING that the ANIMATIONS were what made the game UNIQUE. When in TRUTH unless you had the BOX sitting there in FRONT of you, you would have NEVER known what GAME you were PLAYING.
    What are you even, what? That's the worst argument ever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokien View Post
    What are you even, what? That's the worst argument ever.
    lol no it's not because I understood what she was saying, what makes FF distinquish itself from other rpgs and aesthetically unique? Okay animations and graphics are one, but all games have that, so not unique, but what is true FF aesthetics? What makes us love FF and need it in to make it unique? I bet if you took a poll, Moogles, Cid, Airships, Chocobos, Jobs (WHM BLM DRG) make it a FF. So that is the Aesthetics FFXIV needed and we got them. It is what makes us want to play a FF and makes it a good FF. When we got 1.0 we didn't get those aesthetics, we just got a game in a world that made me feeling for about 6 months... This doesn't feel like a FF at all! But oh it sure looks pretty! but it was not a FF, aesthetically!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokien View Post
    FIRST OF ALL

    What does chocobos, and everything else you just said has to do with animation, PEOPLE LIKED THE ANIMATION. NOBODY, I DON'T KNOW ANYONE, who wanted the animations taken out. The only reason why animation lock is bad is because the server lag, yet, people are beating every content with animation lock. So, that is not a big deal, just take out the lag, which 2.0 will fix!

    I'm sorry I don't want my game to FEEL(notice I didn't say look, the graphics are amazing) cheap, I'm paying for it.
    I know plenty of people who don't want animation lock. If the animations are the cause of animation lock, I'd rather see them gone. Like I said, it's not hard to understand. If removing the animations improves gameplay, then I'm all for it.
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    omg Nemy really? We just had this conversation, and you said I was misrepresenting what you meant by Korean MMO when you are doing exactly what I said you meant. You are being offensive and saying that this is a copy-pasta Korean MMO now not a SE unique engine and aesthetic's MMO. Stop being offensive. Also yes Hiir you are right Every new review I have read of Gamescom '12 animations are glowing saying "this is the game we should of gotten! Way to go Yoshi-P and SE for doing the Impossible and making a trash game appeasing".

    Also Rokien, you are the Majority? I am sure in a few months when they have a lot of new subs you will be in the minority like a 1% minority.

    Again yes it was unique and I wouldn't mind if they left it in, but it won't make me quit like all of you have been claiming since 1.0 was released. I remember some of you said you would quit because Yoshi-P was taking over for Tanaka but you are still here. In the end this proves in a year when you are still here playing it really is a minor thing and you guys actually truly like the game even if you won't admit it to yourself.
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    It's not impossible to make fluid animations and not suffer from animation lock. Look at any other major MMO out there.
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    But SE has stated many times they are going to keep the animations to completion if the animation is going on you are there for the ride period. They want it realistic and the reality of that is if you start a 6 hit combo you have to stand still for the 6 hits, you don't get to run away mid attack. They are looking to remove some of the smaller in-between motions that we probably will not miss anyway. Just as I think if keeping the servers up past the deadline causes even 1 person to be delayed working on ARR than its not worth it to me. I think if these minor animations need any attention then scrapping them is the better choice. I want engaging combat and battle choices that test the decisions I make in battle versus the speed I can react to hitting a button as cooldowns are up.
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    I'm sorry but if i face a monster and i start to make a 6 combo move , if the mob is launching a big bad fireball in my face i will stop my combo so i will not die .
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