Better Materia System

[Shougun]

I don't know of a planet where it makes sense to devalue your own stuff.

Where in the world did i say devalue your stuff? I get the feeling you are here to just argue and not improve anything at all.

Materia would cost a lot because you can keep it and move it around, it has to cost a lot as it has a lot of power. It would also cost a lot to make.

Just because materia costs more doesnt devalue the weapon. The weapon always costed the same amount.
You are being illogical now ;/.

[rina_inverse]

Just wanna add
there seems to be a lot of emphasis on "me" "my" and "mine" in this topic

seriously TC, seriously

kay, back to work now

[Rau]

This seems overly complicated. I agree that materia needs SOME reformation, but this is too much.

[Shougun]

This seems overly complicated. I agree that materia needs SOME reformation, but this is too much.

Yeah there are some minimal change ideas in this thread as well, page 2 or 3 i think. Problem with them is they introduce other economic problems.

The reason this idea appears so complex is because it is sourcing together gilsinks that would be lost otherwise. And honestly compared to the current system its not that complex its just a trade of complexity - the purpose is to reward effort and not random luck (RNG as someone put it deserves to die).

If you can come up with a simpler yet economically sound suggestion -- please -- suggest it here or make your own thread!

[rina_inverse]

okay
I just reread the first post
Screw you for putting AF gear into melding consideration

You hear that!
Screw you!

[Shougun]

okay
I just reread the first post
Screw you for putting AF gear into melding consideration

You hear that!
Screw you!

And why is that? It would keep the AF gear competitive for a little while longer. Many many people want to keep wearing their gear* but its no good compared many other options. (Though most players dont realize that, its true AF gear sucks -except for a few pieces that have unique stats that are usually hard to find on a particular piece). *Unless you are a male bard.. ahahaha.

Again why against AF materia? This system I suggested takes materia back to its roots, where it was cool. When it was cool, materia never told you that just because this weapon is cool you cant put any materia in it. Just certain weapons had more slots then others. Finally as I said in that post you read AF gear would have less slots as you wanted crafting gear to be increasingly competitive to AF gear but AF gear to be at least semi competitive to crafting gear. With the suggested idea crafting items will still be attractive, they will however take more time/money* to get stronger - the higher level crafting items also have pretty great base stats too (The hippogriph Jerkin and such).

*unless you are poor or a whm you shouldnt be in your AF gear for very long once you hit 50 - I am fairly poor so it took me a while to get out of most of my AF gear (but it wasnt because I thought my AF gear rocked, it was just because I as poor.. It would be nice to actually value your AF gear for a little while longer).

[rina_inverse]

And why is that? It would keep the AF gear competitive for a little while longer. Many many people want to keep wearing their gear* but its no good compared many other options. (Though most players dont realize that, its true AF gear sucks -except for a few pieces that have unique stats that are usually hard to find on a particular piece). *Unless you are a male bard.. ahahaha.

Again why against AF materia? This system I suggested takes materia back to its roots, where it was cool. When it was cool, materia never told you that just because this weapon is cool you cant put any materia in it. Just certain weapons had more slots then others. Finally as I said in that post you read AF gear would have less slots as you wanted crafting gear to be increasingly competitive to AF gear but AF gear to be at least semi competitive to crafting gear. With the suggested idea crafting items will still be attractive, they will however take more time/money* to get stronger - the higher level crafting items also have pretty great base stats too (The hippogriph Jerkin and such).

*unless you are poor or a whm you shouldnt be in your AF gear for very long once you hit 50 - I am fairly poor so it took me a while to get out of most of my AF gear (but it wasnt because I thought my AF gear rocked, it was just because I as poor.. It would be nice to actually value your AF gear for a little while longer).

Stay away from lore item, please for the love of God stay away!

[Shougun]

Stay away from lore item, please for the love of God stay away!

Reasoning because...? You believe they shouldn't be touched...? because...? Materia in the past has never had an issue with lore - I have no idea why you insist it does now. And in technical sense all items have lore - how much of course varies, but a Vanya sash is not loreless - no item is. Buster sword and materia have sat in a tree for a long time, no one said "I will not add materia to this item to make it stronger because this item has lore".

I can understand breaking important items like AF is not ideal - as they are supposed to be one of a kind. However I have already made the counter measure by saying items will not break through materia implants.

It would be great if you are going to post that you can complete a thought and reason and not just throw out exclamation marks like it adds more meaning and importance to your sentence (it does not).

[Madruk]

I applaud your thought into this, but devs don't read this and no community rep is going to translate that entire post for them.

[Shougun]

I applaud your thought into this, but devs don't read this and no community rep is going to translate that entire post for them.

; ; Very true post.

I'm mainly hoping they translate a part of it so the dev team can make their own system that is largely free of RNG but doesnt mess up our economy.

Maybe I will make learning English for Japanese speakers post... h aha Read it Yoshida Read it!