sorry but WHAT?

[Chezen]

True, while I don't know whats best for this game I try to spout ideas that wont' interfere with other peoples gaming while giving a bonus to the gameplay itself. Which is the reason I only made 1 topic (3 times lol) since this forums has come up because in no way do I feel my ideas are the end all be all of FFXIV ideas.

Sadly even my best suggestions get bogged down and pushed aside by the many silly topics or totally ignored in the new section. :P

Lol, well in this case, I just can't bring myself to say, "Sure, I'd love to be punished!", which I imagine is the bottom line for most arguments against stiff penalties.

Being that this is a game, there is validity in the argument that a game shouldn't punish its players. It being implimented wouldn't make me quit, but I'm not going to say that I would like it.

[Keith_Dragoon]

Lol, well in this case, I just can't bring myself to say, "Sure, I'd love to be punished!", which I imagine is the bottom line for most arguments against stiff penalties.

Being that this is a game, there is validity in the argument that a game shouldn't punish its players. It being implimented wouldn't make me quit, but I'm not going to say that I would like it.

I don't wanna say I like it cause i'll be the first person in game going "But imma die and lose my XP/SP! ; ;". Something has to be done to help deter players away from just mindlessly throwing their lives away for no real reason other then "No hair off my back I'll just run back and do it again!"

[Kazimir]

I'm waiting to get a chance to play ffxiv

So you aren't playing the game but think you have the right to give your opinions on it? Why are you and every other person that hardly plays the game making these waste of a time topics when you haven't even played enough to really get a feel for what it needs to improve upon? You're wasting the time of the posters, the community team members, and the devs.

[PennywisE]

Kilta, I'm sorry to hear about your recent break up, especially with it coming so soon after your recent bereavment.

Since you haven't actually played the game do you come here just to try and earn peoples sympathy?

Guess you have the worst luck or are a compulsive liar. Not sure which. Don't really care.

Confused!

Back on topic, death penalties are a topic for discussion because this is a forum. People who have an understanding of the game come here to discuss their opinion and experiences within the game. Often they will attempt to use those experiences to make suggestions about how to make the game better. However, people do not always agree and this leads to a passionate discussion or 'hot topic'.

Thank you for your time.

[Keith_Dragoon]

Kilta, I'm sorry to hear about your recent break up, especially with it coming so soon after your recent bereavment.

Huh?

Hm. Well... I'm asking this because I really do like to explore all sides of an issue (when it's being discussed, not flamed), but... why? Why is that bad necessarily? Other than the anima exploit that Yoshi-P mentioned.

Well, personally whether its in a party or just general exploring the penalty I mentioned adds suspense, a dash of adventure and a overall concern for my characters well being. In XI I enjoyed dodging mobs in higher level areas soaking in the beauty of the areas while fearing for my life. In XIV I just ran wildy through stuff without concern of death and it wasn't nearly as exciting. The best, most exciting part was the music sadly.

Oh and I don't flame when a question is asked kindly, only a few people cause me to become a angry ball of rage. :P

[Chezen]

Well, personally whether its in a party or just general exploring the penalty I mentioned adds suspense, a dash of adventure and a overall concern for my characters well being. In XI I enjoyed dodging mobs in higher level areas soaking in the beauty of the areas while fearing for my life. In XIV I just ran wildy through stuff without concern of death and it wasn't nearly as exciting. The best, most exciting part was the music sadly.

Oh and I don't flame when a question is asked kindly, only a few people cause me to become a angry ball of rage. :P

Lol, well for the flaming part I didn't mean you specifically. I'm just saying it's been difficult to really discuss anything in a lot of the threads.

And in my question, I didn't mean you specifically either, I appologize for that mix up. You said "Something has to be done to help deter players away from just mindlessly throwing their lives away for no real reason other then "No hair off my back I'll just run back and do it again!", so I was refering to why is it bad for other players, not yourself.

I do understand your answer though. My thrill seeking comes more in fighting as many creatures as I can without dying.

[Keith_Dragoon]

Lol, well for the flaming part I didn't mean you specifically. I'm just saying it's been difficult to really discuss anything in a lot of the threads.

And in my question, I didn't mean you specifically either, I appologize for that mix up. You said "Something has to be done to help deter players away from just mindlessly throwing their lives away for no real reason other then "No hair off my back I'll just run back and do it again!", so I was refering to why is it bad for other players, not yourself.

I do understand your answer though. My thrill seeking comes more in fighting as many creatures as I can without dying.

Its good to actually have a disscussion with someone rather then being force fed other people's opinions.

I enjoy the fighting lots of mobs without dying too, it just (for me) enhances that feeling when I know dying would set me back a few kills. I mean in XI the penalty was never that bad, at the levels where you lost a ton of XP you had Raise 2-3 which pretty much halved - 90% the xp lost so 1-2 kills later you have back what you lost from dying.

Its not a gamebreaking addition to the game, its so minor nobody would notice unless they die alot and if thats the case its time to reevaluate the cause of the deaths and adjust it to remedy the issue.

[Zaene]

Kilta, I'm sorry to hear about your recent break up, especially with it coming so soon after your recent bereavment.

Since you haven't actually played the game do you come here just to try and earn peoples sympathy?

Guess you have the worst luck or are a compulsive liar. Not sure which. Don't really care.

Confused!

Back on topic, death penalties are a topic for discussion because this is a forum. People who have an understanding of the game come here to discuss their opinion and experiences within the game. Often they will attempt to use those experiences to make suggestions about how to make the game better. However, people do not always agree and this leads to a passionate discussion or 'hot topic'.

Thank you for your time.

Making light of people's personal issues is not at all called for nor is it decent human behavior. Everyone should be given the benefit of the doubt. On the topic of whether someone who bought the game and is not actually playing has any say or should be talking about their ideas sees like a no-brainer. Anyone's opinion is valuable.

The more thoughts out there the better the quality of discussion. People talked up a storm before the game came out, and are still talking. If nothing else Kilta's point of view is unique because she is able to synthesize thought using the information gained from posters here and things she's seen as opposed to seeing it first hand.

[trinta]

If nothing else Kilta's point of view is unique because she is able to synthesize thought using the information gained from posters here and things she's seen as opposed to seeing it first hand.

http://ninjamonkeys.co.za/2007/07/23/on-being-unique/

[Jibe]

http://ninjamonkeys.co.za/2007/07/23/on-being-unique/

LOL

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