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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    Nope, because they're taking out some of the reasons for a rotation to even exist.
    The reasons for rotation in FF XIV is Combos.
    You can use a skill outside the combo, but you don't get the full effect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    Nope, because they're taking out some of the reasons for a rotation to even exist.
    As long as there are even a few cooldowns of note, a rotation will continue to exist. A frost mage, for instance, still has a rotation even if it's mostly the exact same spell (Frostbolt).

    That said, I don't think rotations will be a end-all strategy in the slightest. If we take another WoW example, many specs will use various different attack procedures under different conditions (Frost Mage, Beastmaster, etc). Just because certain things may be spammed, doesn't mean that they're not strategic, as long as there are times that make it a good decision.

    Inversely, a rotation is, as in it's name, repeating. It carries complexity in that you're hitting multiple buttons sequentially to serve a part of your combat strategy. However, there's nothing in a "rotation" itself that's strategic. It's how one fills the gap between what's variable (efficiency, much like how our comboed higher-tier abilities are more effective than un-comboed--tp cost nullification aside), and unvariable (cooldowns). In other words, the selecting of rotations.

    I think ARR's freedom from current combo chain mechanics will be almost entirely beneficial. That said, without knowing the way cooldowns, gliding mechanics affecting abilities, or how abilities might modify other abilities will work in ARR, I can't say if it'll turn into a spamfest or just a much freer ability for strategy.

    I'll guess hope for the best for now, and expect something less...

    *Just my opinion here, and not so much in response to your post, Elexia, as simply brought to mind because of it. I don't at all mean offense.

    Edit: reading up further on cooldown mechanics now.
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    Maybe if you actually played more OP, you would notice we can already do rotations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laughlyn View Post
    Maybe if you actually played more OP, you would notice we can already do rotations.
    Hey it's tough getting to L.2 MIN.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rubina View Post
    Hey it's tough getting to L.2 MIN.
    yup totally worth the monthly fee lol
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    MNK's gonna be fun.

    SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH!

    Yeah, gonna be a spamfest. :3
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    Quote Originally Posted by yoshikwalla View Post
    MNK's gonna be fun.

    SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH!

    Yeah, gonna be a spamfest. :3
    Your dmg would not good with only Simian Trash. And you forgot the 1,5 minute rest for TP here and there. And the moment the WHM stop to heal you so the tank can get the hate back ^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    Your dmg would not good with only Simian Trash. And you forgot the 1,5 minute rest for TP here and there. And the moment the WHM stop to heal you so the tank can get the hate back ^^
    Attributes are changed in ARR, so the damage will likely be much higher just spamming ST compared to now. You did raise the point about tanks and hate though, this is the one thin that's going to make ARR horrible to play or extremely unbalanced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yoshikwalla View Post
    MNK's gonna be fun.

    SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH!

    Yeah, gonna be a spamfest. :3
    blindside + howling fist better
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    Quote Originally Posted by yoshikwalla View Post
    MNK's gonna be fun.

    SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH! SIMIAN THRASH!

    Yeah, gonna be a spamfest. :3
    WHAT IS COOLDOWN?
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