This kind of thing has to stop...

[Ruisu]

No, it's completely not understandable.

For exp parties, and mog, and ifrit? No, it isn't understandable. You're right. However, when it's something that requires a bit of coordination, like Garuda or CC/AV, then yes, I can see why it's preferred to speak their native language.

From my experience, and the experience of many many people, Japanese don't want to play with any gaijin, so you know what, let them be in their own little ffxiv world, just like irl.

I've had plenty of JP players in my parties, and it's generally without problems. If you actually look at the JP forums, whenever someone recommends regional servers, there are 10x as many posts that disagree with regional servers. So it's hardly the fact that they don't like us filthy gaijin.

[Xmbei]

Do you not watch anime or any really any Japanese media? America is always portrayed as belligerent evil and/or half retarded. It's really unfortunate for the English get lumped in with Americans because America doesn't even speak English, they speak American, but I can relate, as a Canadian I get lumped in with America just because of my geographical location.

Wow way to generalize. I live in Japan I see Japanese Tv everyday. Might be a surprise to you, but they don't talk about America unless it is big news worth events like the Colorado shooting or the Presidental race. We as Westerners also think what is in Anime is what actually happens in Japan... Sorry to burst this bubble for you too, but it isn't. Take your unfounded anger on how NA actually give them this impression. Most Japanese get impressions for military or foriegn visitors, Most love us and love talking to us because they find it either cute us trying to speak Japanese or they want to actually learn English and learn about us. While most times foriegner's I have seen around Japan expect the Japanese to appease them, by speaking English or their home countries language, or talk loudly or just be generally rude in public to what the Japanese consider rude and they don't do themselves. So yes those same people don't give us credit because most of us don't know the social norms. Though you also have those NA's that don't care, and cause problems. Like raping, killing or other things unprovoked.

Short story from experience when I first arrived in Japan. An American Sailor stab killed and robbed a taxi cab driver, just because he did not have the taxi fare to pay the driver. When in all honesty if you explained it to them they will take what you can afford, and go on with their day. As has been said many times before, it is a 2 way street. We don't respect them in most cases like some people think they should respect us for, when we are just as bad.

What makes you think you are so special? Ask yourself that, and if the answer is because it inconvienences you then you must rethink your priorities and maybe think that you might also be the problem at times.

Now for the kicking without a reason immediately yes that is frustrating and you can vent. Don't get angry at them over it just move along and find another group. Your anger toward them just reenforces in those select few players that yes we are all rude and self-entitled.

[Amyas]

lol still a face of America, thats the sad part. Though there is also the rapings of high school girls by sailors and marines in Okinawa as well, that surely doesn't help. I wish there was more control over who gets in, but sadly most people that go in are thieves or drug dealers or violent people, that were given the option jail or military, and of course they choose military, and then rob and kill and rape fellow military or those in the town they are stationed in. They are the ones that make the news and make us look bad too...

-_- wow. Just take a few moments and think of what you've said. You say its a two way street then begin ranting about random crimes... just wow. 'wish there was more control over who gets in' 0-0

Anyways... we're all different, why can't we celebrate that rather than pointing out 'O that *American* robbed this convenience store' or 'O that *Japanese* guy was caught pointing a camera under girls skirts...' just with the intention to further ostricize them and yourself as 'different'? crippledchristontoast -_-

[Babydoll]

No, it's completely not understandable. From my experience, and the experience of many many people, Japanese don't want to play with any gaijin, so you know what, let them be in their own little ffxiv world, just like irl. IDRC and neither should you, or anybody. Why play a game with people you can't communicate with. Playing with Japanese or any other nationality you can't communicate with is just one small step above playing a game with Helen Keller.

EDIT:
Can't wait for the ass-hattery that is going to come out of the enraged Japanese players who get stuck with Americans in the content finder. INB4 Search: Japanese only.

I can attest to this. At least part of it. I have joined many "JP only" PT's..which should mean, Japanese language only, no? So anyway..I joined a LOT of those in my early days of FFXI...and when I would join they would call me a gaijin and ask me to leave, despite my Japanese being perfectly fine (I have taken 15 years of the language) I was like wtf....I was not rude or anything to them. o.O I understand their culture quite well (Was an exchange student there for many years growing up, etc) and studied it a lot. I did not say or do anything ridiculous, just said hello, thank you for inviting me. where shall we exp today, etc.

In other PT's I would join...a lot of JP would not know I could read what they were saying..and would make fun of my English speaking friends (most of my friends were quiet in the PT, and very, very polite, good players also) and act quite racist...I was taken aback by this. Especially since it happened a lot....

and before people think this....by no means am I claiming ALL Japanese players are this way..no, no they are not lol. Most of them are very sweet and kind...I have many Japanese friends I love to death. It is as someone said earlier...everywhere on this earth has jerks..and I've come across quite a handful of players that are this way in FFXI. In FFXIV not so much. The Japanese have always been more then happy to play with me and very patient and kind.

It is atrocious how people will kick someone from a party...really. I can understand doing it if someone is being rude and causing ridiculous drama. But anything else..come on....:/

[Xmbei]

I can attest to this. At least part of it. I have joined many "JP only" PT's..which should mean, Japanese language only, no? So anyway..I joined a LOT of those in my early days of FFXI...and when I would join they would call me a gaijin and ask me to leave, despite my Japanese being perfectly fine (I have taken 15 years of the language) I was like wtf....I was not rude or anything to them. o.O I understand their culture quite well (Was an exchange student there for many years growing up, etc) and studied it a lot. I did not say or do anything ridiculous, just said hello, thank you for inviting me. where shall we exp today, etc.

In other PT's I would join...a lot of JP would not know I could read what they were saying..and would make fun of my English speaking friends (most of my friends were quiet in the PT, and very, very polite, good players also) and act quite racist...I was taken aback by this. Especially since it happened a lot....

and before people think this....by no means am I claiming ALL Japanese players are this way..no, no they are not lol. Most of them are very sweet and kind...I have many Japanese friends I love to death. It is as someone said earlier...everywhere on this earth has jerks..and I've come across quite a handful of players that are this way in FFXI. In FFXIV not so much. The Japanese have always been more then happy to play with me and very patient and kind.

It is atrocious how people will kick someone from a party...really. I can understand doing it if someone is being rude and causing ridiculous drama. But anything else..come on....:/

Ya sadly I know not personally but know these type of people too. They are a small selection of Japanese....

Heck another short story from something I have picked up on in my past year since I started school (been here longer but never saw this till now) is The black car van racist Japanese Supremists in Japan. They purposefully in their black vans and imperial japanese flag and anthem blare it as well as hateful propaganda anywhere they know a lot of foriegners are. Mainly in the Roppongi/Minato area of Tokyo because that is where most of the Embassies and my school is located. They don't care but as you said it is not all. They are just people that believe half truths and such.

Your post also reminded me of a very vocal racist Japanese player on Siren server in my XI times. He would shout in a busy city telling us gaijin to get off their game and that we dirty up their world and ruin their experience. I have also been in parties with JP at the same time on FFXI and had the time of my life.

Anyways, I don't see the problem I have seen it since XI we have always made our own cultural groupings in the FF MMO's and we most times stay in our comfort zones, can't fault anyone for that. If you do come across a rude player no matter what the case blacklist them and also let your friends know that they are rude selfish/racist players. It probably won't do anything but it might help resolve something too.

What I want to get at though is you can't force someone to play with you because they don't. If they don't want to and you are a fun person to play with its their loss, find another group and enjoy the game, don't let a small community of secularist ruin the game for you.

[JackDaniels]

Stop sitting there and thinking only the Japanese do things like that when every country in the world does something similar in some fashion.

I'm not implying that at all. As the worlds population grows, globalization is inevitable, there are going to be some major cultural and language barriers that need to be broken through, it's going to take generations of learning, tolerance and understanding for it to work, I don't see why this GAME has to be a frontier for that battle. Good grief, there's clearly hatred all around from each side, so why not just segregate by region/language (which as far as I know, we are, thank god).

[Punainen]

Local servers will hopefully cure MOST of this, as I'm assuming most NA players will go with NA servers (I know I will), and therefore avoid the racism. And JP can feel free to be racist on their JP servers where hardly any NA will play.

[NefGP]

IIRC, it's been like this from the start of XIV because the JP basically had it with us after XI.

Plus, they like to chat a lot during parties (don't most people?) and well, unless you speak the language, it's pretty hard to converse back & forth.

[Jynx]

This thread needs more sweeping generalizations of entire populations.

[Bers]

I always felt there was a fairly equal amount of this in FFXI... but kind of new to FFXIV and it seems to be the same so far (kind of expected it though), maybe it'll be worse at 50 o.O;;