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    I think it would have gone a lot better had drops been obvious. There's no problem taking turns, but if half the people think killshot gets drops so they're not going to wait, and the other half think claim gets drops so they want to alternate, you end up with a lot of confusion and resentment.

    It's no fun getting an item if it felt like you had to steal it from other players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceol View Post
    There's no problem taking turns
    Good luck convincing people of that. You'll always end up with a group that will attempt to monopolize the claim on the big HNM type monsters.

    Looking forward to Odin in ARR!
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    I can't see SE recoding the way drops work for one new event. People really believe that out of the blue SE decided that the final kill shot regardless of claim now determines who gets loot? Seriously?

    What is happening is that either you have claim and your kill shot is irrelevant or the mob is leashing and your kill shot is taking claim...
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    I can confirm that getting a "killshot" does not indicate where the drops go. As far as I can tell so far, proximity to the mob (I got a hat when it was purple to me, and I nor anyone else in my party got the killing blow on the elite that dropped it) is the only thing that matters.

    So far after hours of farming, I haven't seen any confirmation whatsoever they drop from anything but the elite packs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LenTsani View Post
    I can confirm that getting a "killshot" does not indicate where the drops go. As far as I can tell so far, proximity to the mob (I got a hat when it was purple to me, and I nor anyone else in my party got the killing blow on the elite that dropped it) is the only thing that matters.

    So far after hours of farming, I haven't seen any confirmation whatsoever they drop from anything but the elite packs.
    Hi Len,

    Thanks for the info.

    If this is true (that you merely have to be in proximity and *not* get claim and *not* get killing shot), it seems a bit odd / unfair for those parties that actually spent the majority of their efforts getting the NMs down to 1% health (or killing it).

    If what you're saying is true (just be in proximity), it's kinda sad when you have a Party that works on killing 99% of the Mobs (or heck, even doing 100% of the work), and you can just stand there and have a chance at the drop.

    (or if you have to damage it a bit, the fact that you can let some other party do 99% of the work and you go in and just take a couple swings and hope for a roll feels... odd / unfair / not really rewarding teamwork (just loot stealing in a way).)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiara View Post
    If this is true (that you merely have to be in proximity and *not* get claim and *not* get killing shot), it seems a bit odd / unfair for those parties that actually spent the majority of their efforts getting the NMs down to 1% health (or killing it).

    If what you're saying is true (just be in proximity), it's kinda sad when you have a Party that works on killing 99% of the Mobs (or heck, even doing 100% of the work), and you can just stand there and have a chance at the drop.

    (or if you have to damage it a bit, the fact that you can let some other party do 99% of the work and you go in and just take a couple swings and hope for a roll feels... odd / unfair / not really rewarding teamwork (just loot stealing in a way).)
    There is 0 chance that you only need to stand next to the enemy. More than likely, your chance of getting the drop is based of the amount of enmity you obtain. Even if the requirement is just get any enmity at all.

    It's Called Open-Tapping.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    There is 0 chance that you only need to stand next to the enemy. More than likely, your chance of getting the drop is based of the amount of enmity you obtain. Even if the requirement is just get any enmity at all.

    It's Called Open-Tapping.
    SE ---really--- needs to confirm this then, there are a lot of parties getting really pissed off at others coming in and killing the monster. If in reality that doesnt matter then we have a bunch of raging for no reason.

    I would all be for community no need to party content - but seriously tell us because we dont expect them to create that kind of content... (though we should, its lame having anti community community content lol)
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    Quote Originally Posted by LenTsani View Post
    I can confirm that getting a "killshot" does not indicate where the drops go. As far as I can tell so far, proximity to the mob (I got a hat when it was purple to me, and I nor anyone else in my party got the killing blow on the elite that dropped it) is the only thing that matters.

    So far after hours of farming, I haven't seen any confirmation whatsoever they drop from anything but the elite packs.

    I can confirm proximity is not a factor. Myself and some friends were out at iron lake. We had a alt camp'd at the east pop side while we were at northwest for ease of saving the run to check when if the opposing side bad pop'd. Upon killing a imperial his alt still received the drop rate over 500yalms away without touching it.

    Honestly we didn't even know loot went that far, (neither did we know it dropped to the mule till after the event was over and he found a tricorne in his inventory lol)

    *Loot will drop to to the party that has claim (and has held claim) while killing it OR the party who's member gets a killing blow while it is leashing.
    ^- If it was leashing and we got killing blow we would see drops occasionally. But we also had a case where a PLD claimed the centurion around 5% after he fully reset and returned to position, used hollow ground while our party finished it off, then received a hat. So as stated before, the killing blow isn't what's causing the drops it's that the mob is 'leashing' so the person's party who is getting that killing blow is receiving the loot if loot is to drop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meatdawg View Post
    I can't see SE recoding the way drops work for one new event. People really believe that out of the blue SE decided that the final kill shot regardless of claim now determines who gets loot? Seriously?

    What is happening is that either you have claim and your kill shot is irrelevant or the mob is leashing and your kill shot is taking claim...
    See, my galkan brother thinks the same thing!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tailless_Galka View Post
    Also, the reason you guys might be confusing the killshot for who has claim is because when you leash the mobs they could be deaggroin right before a kill and your killshot could be for claim because i noticed it happening last night before we were straight tanking.
    Quote Originally Posted by Meatdawg View Post
    I can't see SE recoding the way drops work for one new event. People really believe that out of the blue SE decided that the final kill shot regardless of claim now determines who gets loot? Seriously?

    What is happening is that either you have claim and your kill shot is irrelevant or the mob is leashing and your kill shot is taking claim...
    I agree. I think this is the most likely explanation for what is happening right now.
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