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    Delsus's Avatar
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    Delsus Highwind
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShinigamiKayla View Post
    things people can do while 1.0 is down:
    1. Loose some weight and get healthier eating habits and exercise
    2. visit their families that they never visit~
    3. get out into the sun for a while
    4. enjoy life!~
    5. etc
    1. excer...what????
    2. What is we don't wanna visit our families? or what if we visit them all the time?
    3. so you tell us to loose weight and live healthier, then tell us to potentially get skin cancer, also sun in November? Nice for some people.
    4. Some people can't enjoy life as easily as you might think, some people are unemployed and can't afford to enjoy it, some people physically might not be able to.

    I have successfully punched holes in everything you have said. I will go with the majority here and say play something else for a bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShinigamiKayla View Post
    things people can do while 1.0 is down:
    1. Loose some weight and get healthier eating habits and exercise
    2. visit their families that they never visit~
    3. get out into the sun for a while
    4. enjoy life!~
    5. etc
    1. I'm already fairly healthy, and very physically active.
    2. My children live iwth me and my parents live 200 yards away. my kids walk through a field and some woods and they're in their back yard.
    3. But it's the dead of winter. Outside is cold and nasty.
    4. I am, but winter time I huddle down in my man cave and play video games. Like the squirrel spends the summer shoving his nuts into holes, I have done the same, so I can have a relaxing winter. I have 2 cords of wood split and will be stacked on the back porch when I put away the patio furnature, i'll be closing hte pool in 2 weeks, mowing hte lawn a final time. I'm tired, it's almost video game time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nasomi View Post
    1. I'm already fairly healthy, and very physically active.
    2. My children live iwth me and my parents live 200 yards away. my kids walk through a field and some woods and they're in their back yard.
    3. But it's the dead of winter. Outside is cold and nasty.
    4. I am, but winter time I huddle down in my man cave and play video games. Like the squirrel spends the summer shoving his nuts into holes, I have done the same, so I can have a relaxing winter. I have 2 cords of wood split and will be stacked on the back porch when I put away the patio furnature, i'll be closing hte pool in 2 weeks, mowing hte lawn a final time. I'm tired, it's almost video game time.
    i dont even..... O_o
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero View Post
    i dont even..... O_o
    Guessing it's a guy thing, like they stick their penis into any hole they find once they hit puberty.
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    you could just not play then
    Quote Originally Posted by nasomi View Post
    So basically, I can keep playing if I want, but anything I accomplish will be gone. I think not. You're going to lose a massive amount of players saying either a) you can't play for 2 months, particularly over the holiday when a lot of people have time off, or b) you can play, but we're just going to wipe out anything you accomplish.

    It should not be that hard to migrate character data to the new system. People that play want to keep playing. I log in and fish in my spare time, or level some jobs, ie make progress in the game. That is completely pointless if you're just going to wipe it. It's like playing FF1 half way through, then the battery in your cartridge dies and you have to start over.

    There has to be another way.
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    Please, my tabstop is zero.

    Also squirrels put their nuts into holes all summer so they can eat during the winter and don't starve to death. The story behind hte squirrel working all summer so he can enjoy the winter, while the other critter plays all summer then starves to death in the winter because he didn't prepare for it.
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    Oh damn, so many game developers play this! Lucky for Square-Enix to get so much free input on what they've been doing for 25 years!
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    Sorry, you said database, not code.

    40tb database.

    I have an entire datawarehouse that records every transaction at the line item, plus a table of 35,000 customers, a table of 350,000 items, about 150,000 invoices each day, with anywhere from 10 to 300 lines on an invoice. And it stores 3 years of data at that line item detail. It's 2.5tb. So SE must be storing information on where every grain of sand in thanalan is, every leaf in the shroud, and every idiot in la noscea.
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    Delsus Highwind
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    Quote Originally Posted by nasomi View Post
    Sorry, you said database, not code.

    40tb database.

    I have an entire datawarehouse that records every transaction at the line item, plus a table of 35,000 customers, a table of 350,000 items, about 150,000 invoices each day, with anywhere from 10 to 300 lines on an invoice. And it stores 3 years of data at that line item detail. It's 2.5tb. So SE must be storing information on where every grain of sand in thanalan is, every leaf in the shroud, and every idiot in la noscea.
    I have been doing some voluntary work at my local council, I checked out their datacenter and they had (for all their data combined across all sites, including Active directory databases, Exchange, software based SANs etc) at least 100TB of storage, that's just for user areas (each user gets a quota of data) They have at least 50TB of that (stored on 2TB hard drives connected to the SAN) just for exchange, which as I'm sure you know primarily for emails, this is for about 5-10k employees. Now put that into the perspective of FFXIV with 400k accounts, yeah if a company needs 50TB for emails its really not out of the question for our FFXIV characters server side to be at least 40TB.

    E-commerce is nowhere near the same as a MMORPG, MMOs need to store a lot more data than most servers. Yes the majority of the client side is the graphics, but the server side is every little bit of information about our characters, from what weapon you have equipped all the way down to that little scar you made on the back of your hand.

    And lets not forget the need to do a thorough checksum after all the data has been converted, if the rush that it will overlook any errors or corruptions, so they will be doing slow checksums, on this much complex data this will take at least 1 week.
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    Last edited by Delsus; 09-07-2012 at 06:04 AM.

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    When Bungie showed off how much data Halo Reach was producing during it's first few months, I believe it was at the 6TB mark. Halo is a shooter, far less data than an MMORPG (but still a lot of data), yet it still produced that much data for not having all the bells and whistles of an MMORPG.

    If you're comparing an eCommerce database with an online game database, that's where you're getting confused on the "high number" and why you think it's not possible to be high.
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