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    Quote Originally Posted by Keyln View Post
    Yes. Yes I do. Do you?
    Apparently i don't. I need to redefine it including describing your feelings on hypothetical future scenarios.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemy View Post
    Apparently i don't. I need to redefine it including describing your feelings on hypothetical future scenarios.
    But don't you know? There are an infinite amount amount of hypothetical futures, like a river with an infinite amount of branches and forks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemy View Post
    Apparently i don't. I need to redefine it including describing your feelings on hypothetical future scenarios.
    did you just, in your own sarcastic words, prove what most of us have been saying? You have been emotional about a hypothetical future, we all are >.>. That is why most of us "pre-alpha" speakers are saying wait till you actually test it in alpha and beta, and provide feedback, when you are at the controls in settings you set. Not on a video, that even the team directors are saying, "we don't like this demo, it is ugly and unfinished. I did not want to show it." How much do you want to bet it was all our griping on "wtf SE where is our promised gameplay footage" So they felt pressure probably by us and stockholders to rush out an unfinished demo, just to appease us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xmbei View Post
    did you just, in your own sarcastic words, prove what most of us have been saying? You have been emotional about a hypothetical future, we all are >.>. That is why most of us "pre-alpha" speakers are saying wait till you actually test it in alpha and beta, and provide feedback, when you are at the controls in settings you set. Not on a video, that even the team directors are saying, "we don't like this demo, it is ugly and unfinished. I did not want to show it." How much do you want to bet it was all our griping on "wtf SE where is our promised gameplay footage" So they felt pressure probably by us and stockholders to rush out an unfinished demo, just to appease us.
    Did you just implied that all hypothesis share the same probability of becoming reality?

    Of course, being concerned about a hypothetical bug where your screen turns pink while a couple of tarus appear and dance till you restart your client, would make us crazy.

    Being concerned about a hypothesis that could very well become a reality following a very solid line of reasoning literally days before the alpha, is, or should be at least, understandable.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xmbei View Post
    wait till you actually test it in alpha and beta
    This is the kind of attitude that led us to XIV's failure in the first place.

    Read Neptune's or Zaireeka2025's post in the first page (OP) and if you still have the same position regarding when we should raise awareness regarding core elements of development, i'm sorry but you deserve a bad game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemy View Post
    Did you just implied that all hypothesis share the same probability of becoming reality?

    Of course, being concerned about a hypothetical bug where your screen turns pink while a couple of tarus appear and dance till you restart your client, would make us crazy.

    Being concerned about a hypothesis that could very well become a reality following a very solid line of reasoning literally days before the alpha, is, or should be at least, understandable.
    Yes I did imply because that is what Hypothesis are... they are guesses made up scientifically to be tested to either be proven factual or false. Then written as a thesis, and then tested in conjectured by other people to see if the situation is duplicated or in fact a falsity. All Hypothesis have a chance to be proven right, or wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemy View Post
    Did you just implied that all hypothesis share the same probability of becoming reality?

    Of course, being concerned about a hypothetical bug where your screen turns pink while a couple of tarus appear and dance till you restart your client, would make us crazy.

    Being concerned about a hypothesis that could very well become a reality following a very solid line of reasoning literally days before the alpha, is, or should be at least, understandable.



    This is the kind of attitude that led us to XIV's failure in the first place.

    Read Neptune's or Zaireeka2025's post in the first page (OP) and if you still have the same position regarding when we should raise awareness regarding core elements of development, i'm sorry but you deserve a bad game.
    Really? It didn't have anything to do with Tanaka not wanting to listen to the tester's and when confronted by it he said "We can just fix it in final version"? I mean we are working under a different team and director now, and from what I can tell in the 1.5 years Yoshi-P has been in charge he has listened to the consumers about what needs improvement and Fixed them pretty quickly. Also if I remember correctly a lot of those transitional animations came after Alpha Beta and I am almost certain it came under or reimplemented by Yoshi-P. Sure my memory on the matter might be a little fuzzy but I remember a huge problem with animations from 1.0 vanilla and us talking about it due to our experience playing it and Yoshi fixed it. I am sure those same changes that we complained about before didn't just get wiped clean off the board and were implemented in 2.0 as well.

    Again omg its a Hypothesis... its a guess... we won't know till we actually TEST the HYPOTHESIS... You can't test a hypothesis by watching someone else do it, you have to test it yourself find your own faults with it and then report your finds. You can't do those prematurely, because (get this) you don't have all the facts till you actually work and test it yourself! ;D

    Edit: Oh and on your comment of "this is what caused XIV to fail the first time". I also have this to say... it was not the same, then People said oh it isn't in Alpha PLAY, it will in beta PLAY, oh its not here either it shall definately be in vanilla PLAY.... see there I capitalized PLAY for you, because people were saying this while PLAYING, we are not playing ARR yet. So not exactly the same, we are WATCHING someone else play, lol, to their own admission a "bad example" and "not final version by far". Their is a difference here. Want to know what it is??!?!?!!?


    It is that they admit and know it is not good or finished. While Tanaka and his team said "all is fine" while not even listening to any feed back except to his own brainwaves. Yes, you can say that is happening now... but from professional history, Yoshi-P has delivered while Tanaka swept the problems under the rug.
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