Realm Reborn = downgrade?

[Xmbei]

I saw a lot of people accusing me of making a useless thread, yet i saw nobody presenting a downside of making our views known and asking for clarification early on.

Can anyone please answer my question?

I somehow find myself being more interested at how this community thinks rather than the subject of this thread.

I am just going to take a tonberry stab here to this thread, but I have noticed that reps have responded to other threads, and they probably havent answered it because 1 of 3 reasons.

1) the might have an official video almost ready with said animations.

2) It is a question going to be asked in the live letter which is in a few days.

or....

3) It has already been answered.

[Seirra_Lanzce]

I am just going to take a tonberry stab here to this thread, but I have noticed that reps have responded to other threads, and they probably havent answered it because 1 of 3 reasons.

1) the might have an official video almost ready with said animations.

2) It is a question going to be asked in the live letter which is in a few days.

or....

3) It has already been answered.

4) The rep just translate what the JP rep posted and it has been like this for most of the times.

[yukikaze_yanagi]

this sum my thought

that + deal with it. My game will not ruined just because they scraped (maybe) some animation in the effort to give away animation lock

[Nemy]

this sum my thought

that + deal with it. My game will not ruined just because they scraped (maybe) some animation in the effort to give away animation lock

Noted.

Neither will mine, although it will look and feel way worse in my eyes.

[Xmbei]

Noted.

Neither will mine, although it will look and feel way worse in my eyes.

for maybe a week or month and then it won't even matter after you try out everything else. It's amazing ability of humans we are adaptable to any given situation ^^

[Nemy]

for maybe a week or month and then it won't even matter after you try out everything else. It's amazing ability of humans we are adaptable to any given situation ^^

I'm spoiled by the current animations, and being someone that values things like animations, camera, etc way more than the average person, it might even stop me from playing this game, if everything else is not absolutely amazing.

The current "feel" of the character is one of the few things done correctly in this game, and it would be a shame to replace it with literally every other korean mmo "feel", just because they couldn't find a better way around animation-lock.

Everyone values things differently, but acknowledging there's a big possibility of an obvious downgrade in character animation, and yet simply accepting it, or being against someone that raises awareness on the subject doesn't really make sense to me.

This game needs an "aggressive" community when it comes to criticising development, if its not going to fail again.

It literally costs nothing to scrutinise early on, and it only adds to making the game better.

[Xmbei]

I'm spoiled by the current animations, and being someone that values things like animations, camera, etc way more than the average person, it might even stop me from playing this game, if everything else is not absolutely amazing.

The current "feel" of the character is one of the few things done correctly in this game, and it would be a shame to replace it with literally every other korean mmo "feel", just because they couldn't find a better way around animation-lock.

Everyone values things differently, but acknowledging there's a big possibility of an obvious downgrade in character animation, and yet simply accepting it, or being against someone that raises awareness on the subject doesn't really make sense to me.

This game needs an "aggressive" community when it comes to criticising development, if its not going to fail again.

It literally costs nothing to scrutinise early on, and it only adds to making the game better.

So by "aggressive scrutinising" you mean to offend and make all the work the new team has done in a year and a half, (a god send imo) calling it a "Typical Korean MMO". Gtfo right, you don't have to like anything but when you start discrediting something they have spent a year and a half fixing a glitchy buggy game for US to play like it should of? I can't take you seriously anymore. You are not going about this the correct way anymore, you are playing defensively and offensively that it is just offensive to something that deve's have put there life into for the past year into, making a new engine and then building a new game off of it...

Seriously you need to learn tact and diplomacy. You are now just sounding like a spoiled rotten kid that complains when you don't get or have something someone else has. I could understand most of you and others concerns up until the past 5 or so pages. Where you have been making false claims just to back up your opinion.

Now some people might flame me for a fan boy, but you have to view it as what have they done for us in the past year? They made FFXIV 1.0 Amazing! Playable! Enjoyable! Now think do you think they would do all that for 1.0 and get us all happy and excited and then throw that all out the door?

I DON'T THINK SO!

Seriously show some decorum in your posts.

(Edit: And yes I know the irony in my post and what I said. I just have had it with the falsity claims and not using their own words anymore to support themselves they have to quote everyone else on their side. I.E. No original thought, while also trying to make us that say wait for proper Alpha Testing to start providing feedback on 2.0 when they are read for 2.0 feedback. I can without a doubt know that Yoshi and dev team is going "see I knew we shouldn't of shown anything yet. People are assuming something off a demo that is of an unfinished product.") From My understand of those Demo videos they are of at least a month prior or 2 gameplay then where they actually are in development. Because they were able to make a stable enough platform for it at that stage to show off.

[Shura]

If you read my earlier posts in this thread you know I'm one of those people who want the high quality animation to be present in ARR, that being said i thought i would point out a recent dev reply since no one else has done so yet. In the JP section a question was asked in regards to why weapon animation was left out when switching between passive/active mode in the video (didn't even notice) and the dev replied saying it's because its still in development but the final release will have weapon animation like the current version. While this reply is in regards to weapon animation, it still gives me hope since we now know some animations were left out on purpose because of the build version and hopefully the movement animation is also one of them.

I do urge people to continue discussing issues and voice concerns though and not simply wait till Alpha or Beta. This is indeed pre-alpha but most of us won't get into Alpha and Alpha has limited testers, the nature of the beast really. So i don't understand the mentality of waiting for something u might not get in to or simply assuming those who do will voice your concerns. Good chance we probably won't even see Alpha leaks since leaking means losing your current account and not just test privilege, not many people will risk that. Then comes Beta but Beta builds are usually near finished product, at this point they are simply doing large scale server tests and progression tests, they might make small changes such as mob lv or difficulty but game changing mechanics usually do not happen at this late stage.

ARR is a bit different from other MMO development since its progressing at a higher then normal speed, less 4 months till the anticipated open beta/launch and we still have not started Alpha testing, which most likely wont start till October so its really 3 months between Alpha and open beta/launch.(assuming Launch takes as long as early 2013) There won't be anyone else to blame this time around, sure SE messed up big the first time but so did we, i remember all the white knighting on FFXIVCore every time an issue was brought up; "Its still in development", "Final won't be like that" "Stop complaining about unfinished product" Lets not repeat this again please^^

[Felis]

It's not the exactly topic, but it is similar

http://goo.gl/aO9IT - saz is saying the images, video's of 2.0 game play shows characters AF weapon without the folding, transforming animation. The weapons stay at already opened state. Triairy saying it's still development stages so currently it's set this way but on final version it will be like now where it transforms.

[Felis]

Can you 2 make a new thread? Call it "Nemy and Xmbei dialogue"