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    I actually agree with the main thread. I have had this game for over 6 months now and still it is no where near what anyone would consider a finished product. Don't get me wrong Yoshi-san has done a lot for the game and is still doing a lot, but after 6 months I want to feel like that game has gone somewhere and it hasn't. I know Yoshi-san has only been working on the game for the last 3 months, but that's not an excuse. He, unfortunately, has to work even harder to make up for the lack of fixes by the old team. He is in an extremely hard spot, I know, but the patches thus far, 1.15 and 1.16 and their a counterparts have been mediocre, in my opinion, at best. We need real content and patches, and unfortunately for the new dev team, we need them now. Or if not know at least a date of when to expect this. I think deadlines are important and gives the customer, player base (don't forget we did buy this game, even though it is F2P right now), an idea as when they will have their product ready, and it gives the dev pressure to get it done on time. I understand his fears on delays and not being able to meet a deadline for unexplained reasons but at the same time I don't think it is profession nor courtesy to dangle the players by strings hoping the next patch will be the patch to save the game. I have full faith that Yoshi-san can make this game great, my concern is if he can do it before the players move on. Lets hope so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PM1337 View Post
    I actually agree with the main thread. I have had this game for over 6 months now and still it is no where near what anyone would consider a finished product. Don't get me wrong Yoshi-san has done a lot for the game and is still doing a lot, but after 6 months I want to feel like that game has gone somewhere and it hasn't. I know Yoshi-san has only been working on the game for the last 3 months, but that's not an excuse. He, unfortunately, has to work even harder to make up for the lack of fixes by the old team. He is in an extremely hard spot, I know, but the patches thus far, 1.15 and 1.16 and their a counterparts have been mediocre, in my opinion, at best.
    There have been numerous improvements that were subtle, however patches have also added obvious things. Some of these are: seasonal event props and items, increased battle speed, balancing of monster SP values (far from perfect but a vast improvement anyways), side-quests, more main quests (cutscenes included), battle regiments (which are useful if you get people to use them), NMs, market search tool, adjusted item damage rates, etc. All of which had to be made, and tested for in-game feasibility. Considering they are rebuilding a released game that they don't have complete control over (cannot just remove and replace systems) I'd say that their doing a fairly good job.

    Quote Originally Posted by PM1337 View Post
    We need real content and patches, and unfortunately for the new dev team, we need them now. Or if not know at least a date of when to expect this. I think deadlines are important and gives the customer, player base (don't forget we did buy this game, even though it is F2P right now), an idea as when they will have their product ready, and it gives the dev pressure to get it done on time. I understand his fears on delays and not being able to meet a deadline for unexplained reasons but at the same time I don't think it is profession nor courtesy to dangle the players by strings hoping the next patch will be the patch to save the game. I have full faith that Yoshi-san can make this game great, my concern is if he can do it before the players move on. Lets hope so.
    If they were to announce dates for an improvement and there was a delay in its release then faith would be lost in the dev team. They internally have set dates, they just don't announce it for the reason stated above. The fact is that no game developer wants to have to rebuild a game that they already made once, but the fact is that it takes time to create concept art, build new objects and new sections of map, and reprogram the experience calculations. In short their already madly running around trying to fix the game that the old dev team released. It might be a while until everything is addressed.

    Sorry if this is a little long.

    EDIT: In case your curious I have been playing the game since the alpha phase, and they have definitely made massive improvements in the last few months.
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    Mighty big wall of text there PN337, no one is disagreeing, it's just halarious what that guy said from japan. He is right, and time is running out slowly as he stated.
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    hmmm, the game started in october, but the new team started 4 moths ago <_< with the bulk of work and re-design, you can't expect a huge patch around the corner (and don't forget they need to test it before). Yoshida don't really have a magic wand. We know they working on something huge, let's leave it alone.
    Or you guys expect something like "Okay, today we change the formula of sp gain, just need to do some math and all will be good" in the IT industry ? Because computer programming isn't so easy
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    Quote Originally Posted by yukikaze_yanagi View Post
    you can't expect a huge patch around the corner (and don't forget they need to test it before).
    What is this i don't even
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    Quote Originally Posted by yukikaze_yanagi View Post
    hmmm, the game started in october, but the new team started 4 moths ago <_< with the bulk of work and re-design, you can't expect a huge patch around the corner (and don't forget they need to test it before). Yoshida don't really have a magic wand. We know they working on something huge, let's leave it alone.
    Or you guys expect something like "Okay, today we change the formula of sp gain, just need to do some math and all will be good" in the IT industry ? Because computer programming isn't so easy
    I really wish Yoshi-san had a magic wand because he deserves every possible trick to make this game work unfortunately he does get one. He has to make up for the lost time of the first development team. You have my sympathy Yoshi-san
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    I apologize for making the most popular threads. I am a bad person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BelgianRofl View Post
    I apologize for making the most popular threads. I am a bad person.
    you beat the dead horse with this "the most popular threads". How can a thread be popular if half of them are full on insults to you because you're a famous troll ? <_< don't judge only from the numbers of pages lol

    @zkieve people praise it for 2 reasons: after years of non-talking with SE, is the one actually saying something, second because what he promised he kept. Everything listed in the patch notes every time is there. You can argue isn't much, but alas, he said that too
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    Quote Originally Posted by yukikaze_yanagi View Post
    you beat the dead horse with this "the most popular threads". How can a thread be popular if half of them are full on insults to you because you're a famous troll ? <_< don't judge only from the numbers of pages lol

    @zkieve people praise it for 2 reasons: after years of non-talking with SE, is the one actually saying something, second because what he promised he kept. Everything listed in the patch notes every time is there. You can argue isn't much, but alas, he said that too
    What about the agro icon ? is the first creation from yoshida.We know how that turned out.
    Anyways im not saying its good or bad, im saying we are being lead around by a pretty face.Is like that hot chick in the bar who you spend all the night with but you never got to do her or ever will, only promises while you get your wallet empty.To early to praise so much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BelgianRofl View Post
    I apologize for making the most popular threads. I am a bad person.
    People love a good train wreck
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