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    Zumi's Avatar
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    Zumi Kasumi
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    I played an MMO that had a sub fee WoW that has many cash shop mounts $25 and pets $10. I just never felt obligated to buy any cash shop mounts or pets. Although some people do. Blizzard makes millions each time they release a new cash shop exclusive mount. For example 16% of the player base in wow bought the Celestial Steed mount data was pulled from the armory by a fansite. At the time of release WoW had 12 million players.

    That's 1,920,000 mount buyers x $25 = $48,000,000. So yea Blizzard made 48m selling 1 mount on a cash shop which probably took 1 person like less then a day to create since the mount was just a reskin of another mount in the game. So they continue to release cash shop mounts every 6 months or so.

    It isn't even a free to play game and they make millions selling cash shop mounts and pets. One of the reasons F2P games seem to be doing so well these days.

    If SE wants to make more money they shouldn't ignore stuff like this as a way to get revenue.
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    No thank you. :<
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    On a subscription-based game I really only want to see 2 things available for cash outside of my subscription:
    -Server transfers (because sometimes you need one, like if friends start playing on a different server 'cause yours is full)
    -actual, physical merchandise

    I am casually open to in-game vanity items being available, but I'd still prefer it didn't happen. I'm a big no on things that actually assist you in game or are necessary in game to properly play your character being in a cash shop on games with subscriptions.
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    Luca Abbot
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    Guys, this is Klaus' alt account. Stop taking it seriously.
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    ShinigamiKayla's Avatar
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    TSW is doing it and its working out well >.> cash shop for cosmetics is okay as long as it is not randomized gear or such where you end up blowing loads of cash and have no chance of getting something like most cash shop games
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    small things will turn into big things later on. then your asking for PLAY TO WIN
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    Zumi Kasumi
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    I have no issues with gear being sold on a cash shop. Because you have the choice of not buying it. Some people have self control you know.
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    Perrina Avolara
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    I have no issues with gear being sold on a cash shop. Because you have the choice of not buying it. Some people have self control you know.
    Again, flawed logic.

    I see some things on the cash shop that I think look great and would like to have for my character. The only way to get them, though, is by pulling out the credit card and dropping $10-$20 on them. I can't justify that kind of extra expenditure due to my finances. There's no other way of obtaining those items in-game.

    Seems my "choice" is made for me. I have to do without.

    What kind of "choice" is that?

    Having self-control or not has nothing to do with it. It's a complete red herring. The problem is with the idea of having to pay extra for items that could and should be obtainable in the game by playing it since we have already bought the game, and are already paying a monthly sub.

    If you and others around here are so eager to throw more money at SE than you are, there are other ways you can do so that don't affect everyone else.

    1. Buy some merchandise - Tons of things you can buy on there. You're sending SE more money, and no one else has to deal with it. Even better, with actual physical merchandise, you'll still own and get to enjoy those items long after you've stopped playing XIV.

    2. Buy a couple more FFXIV accounts, activate them, but don't play them. Just pay the extra sub fee every month. This way you're sending them more money, but it's not affecting anyone else. Even better, get the game for a couple friends or family members and pay their subs for them. Now you're supporting SE and getting to play with friends/family of yours.

    3. Write them a check once a month for however much you'd like to "donate" and just mail it off to them, with the word "donation" written in the "reason" box.

    4. Buy some more of their games, both in-house and those they publish. If you don't like the games yourself, give them away as gifts, or keep them as collectibles.

    There's just 4 suggestions, all of which allow you folks to support SE more, without forcing it on everyone else as well.

    We've paid SE a box fee. We're paying them a subscription fee. We don't need to pay them anything else, especially for chunks of code that are already installed on our hard-drive.

    Whatever you do, before you, or the OP come up with these brilliant ideas, stop and take a moment to think of all possible scenarios and how people may actually not benefit from such an idea. Don't only think of it in terms of how it would benefit you.
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    Last edited by Preypacer; 09-05-2012 at 08:39 PM.

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    Brann Lochlan
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    I remember one of my buddies buying that mount. Don't the cash shop mounts apply to every toon on your account, making it unnecessary to buy/earn an epic flyer ever again...?
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    Zenaku Yamada
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    Quote Originally Posted by Levian View Post
    I remember one of my buddies buying that mount. Don't the cash shop mounts apply to every toon on your account, making it unnecessary to buy/earn an epic flyer ever again...?
    The best thing about that wow mount if that the one you talking about is that it level as you go which mean you did not have to buy any mounts if you did not want to ingame.
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