Fan Service vs Originality

**Nuru** · 10-21-2012 03:17 AM

Before any of you think this is a troll thread, or that I am complaining about something.. That is way far from the main idea. The point of this thread is to see how far making this a Fan Service MMORPG can go, versus how original it should be.

While each numbered Final Fantasy title carries over a few aspects from the earlier games, you can still consider it to be almost completely original. Now, how far should originality go with FFXIV? With the current version 1.0, originality has been tried and failed, but should that be a reason to steer clear from originality, or from most of it?

I am glad that this being a fan service MMO, it will feel like a Final Fantasy game, however, I am in hopes that it has a very strong balance between being too much like Final Fantasy ??? and not enough originality. What are your thoughts?

**Holy_Dragoon** · 10-21-2012 03:40 AM

keep the original story idea that was in here from day 1. I've been wanting to know more for SO long now. It feels like an incomplete FF story. Not that I have disliked the Dalamud story, far from it!! I just really want to see where this Echo Gifted | Beastmen | Empire triangle goes.

The primals were so important early on, I feel that story has taken a back seat during Dalamud.

**Nuru** · 10-21-2012 04:01 AM

As far as primals go, they are tied to Dalamud from the Meteor story. So Part fo the Meteor story is connected to the game's original storyline. The echo seems to be an ability we have never learned about, as far as how our characters have obtained that ability or why we have it. I'd like to know more about that myself.

In 2.0, they are keeping these NPCs, especially Minfilia, who is tied directly to the organization that connects you with a Path Companion. She also knows about your ability of the echo, so perhaps in 2.0 we should be getting some kind of continuation with that storyline.

**NoctisUmbra** · 10-21-2012 05:14 AM

It's not about fan service. Its about meeting a standard and playing it safe with the fundamentals before adding more creative ideas. The game hasn't launched yet. First it needs to have a successful launch that isn't missing basic, fundamental features. Then they can get creative.

**indira** · 10-21-2012 06:26 AM

they already said there focus is fan service. making old FF stuff fit in FFXIV

**Hiruke** · 10-21-2012 06:46 AM

I don't think I'm really concerned about originality vs. borrowing from previous games, so much as I am just doing things that are "good". Your mileage is obviously going to vary, but I'm personally not excited about stuff like chocobos wearing WHM outfits, or people riding ahrimans. I don't think either of those things look good, but clearly they are moving forward on them because they think a decent enough chunk of players would want those things (and probably disagree with me that they look hideous).

I'd rather they focus on really awesome stuff than pandering to folks that want to ride everything from buffalo to Van Darnus. Magitek armor mounts would obviously be cool. I'd even be excited to ride around in giant robot mandragora. But something about riding around on ahriman seems silly and eerily out of place. What's next, riding on goblin rockets or motorcycles? I fear vanity slots for similar reasons, but I can't get too worked up because so far in FF MMOs you always look hideously stupid when wearing optimal gear.

Bottom line, I don't care what they do as long as they do it awesome. Nearly anything could be great if done properly. If they just resort to a bunch of cheap pandering that doesn't come off well, I'd be much less interested.

**Zezlar** · 10-21-2012 08:05 AM

Final Fantasy XI was heavily based on fan service as well. They just need to find a happy medium where they don't go too far into the extreme.

**Jaimie** · 10-21-2012 08:35 AM

See this list:

http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/s...pe/sOrder/desc

scroll down
keep scrolling
keep scrolling

there it is FFXIV

**Babydoll** · 10-21-2012 09:22 AM

I think it will be fine. I seriously can't see SE putting this stuff in the game EXACTLY how it used to be. I'm sure Yoshida and the team will give each thing a new twist. I can't picture crystal tower being 100% exactly the same as it was in FF3.

Also mind you..this is a Final Fantasy title. It only makes sense to put stuff in it from past FF's. In all the other FF's that was done as well. Returning familiar mobs, used the same avatars, magic spells...but it was not a clone or unoriginal LOL Which is why FF was so great.

Are you tryin to say because each FF had malboros, iron giants and floating eyes in the final dungeons that they were unoriginal??? Because each FF had the same spells...I guess those were all unoriginal too. At this rate they might as well remove cure, fire, lightning, etc...I mean...those are fan service stuff right? :P Jobs too. Better get rid of those lol.

I understand that not each FF had the same area in it...so that is a new thing. But meh..FF are known for reusing things and just making them newer and better. Wait and see...then judge =P Seems like every thread I am seeing now on here is people gettin ahead of themselves >.< Wait until we beta test to critique! It will actually be useful then (Hopefully!)

**Rampage** · 10-21-2012 12:51 PM

I really like where the game is headed right now, its like a FFVII FFIV mix when you think about it. the materia / magitek lines are easy to blur in a good way. Both those games had recurring themes of using primal / esper / mako / whaterver life force leeching power. And the story can make sense since its the same recurring theme.

Magitek armor would be awesome fodder for having special sections in instances where you have to ride them and do different things. Although im hoping they will be additional classes / jobs to it, like a puppeteer where youswitch out parts and stuff, except you are in it!

You can think of it as fanservice, but really its just a way of dressing up game mechanics in a way that makes people think FF. anyway as long as its fun, who cares?

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