Thread: In regards to Jumping in 2.0/realm reborn

Originally Posted by A5ko

Jumping up small mounds to make passage through a terrain easier. How is that not having a point in a game?

Because you can just walk over or around them without any loss of time or movement.

Originally Posted by Reinheart

Are there areas where you have to use chocobo’s jump to be able to reach?
Y: We don’t have any place set where you need to use jump to get up. This is not an action game so I don’t think it’s right to have people feel “I don’t want to do this anymore” for those not good at climbing steps. We have it where you can jump anywhere so even when traveling through the field so I think it’s enjoyable.

I see, so the jump action was added to enjoy the traveling.
Y: Yes that is correct.

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Originally Posted by KiriA500

So does running, but I don't recall seeing any threads demanding the immediate halt of people running in circles around their friends. I mean, nobody would EVER do something like that, so it needs to be fixed. Add a 3 second delay to moving if you did it in a way that offends me.

That's not the same thing, and that's why you don't see people requesting a way out of that. You can easily move out of the way, to a wall, follow him instead, go in a crowd, or just let the lag make it look like he's running in an odd triangle somewhere near you.

We have spam blockers for shout and emote spam. And sense we're on the subject, if we include jumping, why not crawling or handstands. You don't want to restrict my movement right? Why not let us climb buildings or slap the top of a doorway as we enter?

Originally Posted by Gramul

That's not the same thing, and that's why you don't see people requesting a way out of that. You can easily move out of the way, to a wall, follow him instead, go in a crowd, or just let the lag make it look like he's running in an odd triangle somewhere near you.

We have spam blockers for shout and emote spam. And sense we're on the subject, if we include jumping, why not crawling or handstands. You don't want to restrict my movement right? Why not let us climb buildings or slap the top of a doorway as we enter?

Maybe people don't request it because it's actually not a big deal. I'd be willing to put money on it that 99% of the people crying about jumping never played a game with it. Coming from someone who has played many MMO's where you can jump, it's seriously not a big deal at all.

And I don't think you know who you're talking to. If I had the option to walk in any of those ways, I totally would. I want a TF2 Spycrab walk SO BAD!

Originally Posted by Gramul

Because you can just walk over or around them without any loss of time or movement.

I think you missed the gamescom footage. You missed the part where they jump to get over fences, and down steep ledges. You prefer to walk and phased through objects or just let it be an unavoidable obstacle?

I don't think your logic justifies your means of restricting jump

edit: the fastest way between two points will always be a straight line.

Originally Posted by KiriA500

Maybe people don't request it because it's actually not a big deal. I'd be willing to put money on it that 99% of the people crying about jumping never played a game with it. Coming from someone who has played many MMO's where you can jump, it's seriously not a big deal at all.

And I don't think you know who you're talking to. If I had the option to crab walk in any of those ways, I totally would. I want a TF2 Spycrab walk SO BAD!

Also coming from someone who's played many MMO's, it's one of the most annoying things about them. It's the reason people do request some way to stop or alleviate jump spamming.


Also, remember Gifthorse? He wanted the game to have all sorts of acrobatics and climbing and crawling and swimming, but everyone was so against him because his demands where so anti Final Fantasy, so obtuse, as if he wanted them because a free korean MMO had them.

Yet, when it comes to jumping, it must be added and fully integrated so you can do it whenever, no matter how pointless it is to gameplay.

I'm not mad at jumping. If I can be perfectly honest, it's just a minor annoyance to me. But what really steams me up is the response to the people who really don't like it. It's the "LOL I'm just gonna do it to spite you! Nah nah nah nah naaaaaaah!" Bullshit that pulls me into a frenzy. "It's a standard!" "Just leave if you don't like it!" "You're an idiot!" and the likes they get, encouraging that sort of playground scornful fanaticism.

It all seems to stem from blind defense, spite, or general stubborn refusal to lend an ear to opposition, and it kills me to see us follow the same mistake over and over.
That's the type of behavior I expect from an anonymous image board, but in a place where you've identified yourself, why perpetuate it? I know people here are smarter than that. I've seen well thought out views and explanations from all sides.

And I'm guilty of being hasty and thoughtless myself, and for that I apologize. I think we could all strive to make this community as open and thoughtful as it could be, instead of using stock reactions or cleverly worded hate for everything we don't agree with.

Originally Posted by Wolfie

I think you guys need to put on your big girl panties and deal with the fact that people can and will do annoying, repetitive things when bored.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgi3HS0uczk

Edit: I also stop reading when he said "A friend told me that in WoW"

it bugged me at first but to be honest, since its coming anyway, i don't care anymore...
let them hop around if it makes them happy

Let the people jump. If anything, someone should make a video as soon as we're all logged into the game of everyone jumping in rhythm to "Jump" by Kris Kross.

After that, everyone should be well entertained.