The new an improved caravan.

[normalforce]

I wish the game would just auto-join you to a caravan party, since it limits you to 8 people anyway. You can't be a member of a party when signing up, and it adds you to a party once you're in. When caravan ends, that party disbands so everyone can join the next one, which might already be forming if you made plenty of stops.

And if we're talking about wishes here, I'd love some sort of tab where I can see the status of every caravan: how many people are signed up, when the next one begins, etc. so my light party doesn't have to teleport around to find one that will hopefully accommodate all of us.

For an event that only allows, at most, 24 people* to participate at any given time, it would be nice to have a way to organize people prior to blindly wandering into a camp and hoping for the best.



* 24 counting only the 45+ caravans; 48 if you add the lower level ones.

[FraenirVolsung]

I wish the game would just auto-join you to a caravan party, since it limits you to 8 people anyway. You can't be a member of a party when signing up, and it adds you to a party once you're in. When caravan ends, that party disbands so everyone can join the next one, which might already be forming if you made plenty of stops.

I love this idea. The worst caravan experiences I have had were when I joined an escort only to have another group of people join and refuse to invite me because they already have a full party. The problem is that they formed up in Uldah and 3 out of the 8 players hadn't even arrived at Drybone yet. The run starts with less that 8 players and the full group still won't drop a player and invite you. Once I even offered to drop after one run so that their player who hadn't arrived yet could jump in the next run. Auto-party for something like this would be really awesome.

I think sometimes people think that if they join up in Uldah, they automatically get the right of way as soon as they port in over anyone who might have been out there doing escort runs for an hour.

[Hulan]

This is pretty standard, I think it's courtesy to let the full group have a spot but if you weren't aware they had a full group they are just being assholes by not inviting you

I got stuck doing this once and felt pretty bad about it. We had a full group but two of us didn't make it in and immediately went AFK (including our leader). Had to tell the other two {Our party's full}. Fortunately they came back before the end so we managed to get them in before time ran out, but these things can happen.

[Deli]

Oh I got into these party claim war situations too 4v4 or 5v 3
So, base on what I see... feel like whoever get the most that pt get credit..
Drybone is such a special place that individuals go there and sign up like a pick up group place.
So, at least in my server, people don't form a group then go to drybone...

[indira]

caravan should be like GW2 dynamic events theres also a caravan in that game where you just enter the area then boom you in the world party.

FFXIV really needs things to do where you can just play the game and not have to shout for hours to do a 20 min thing.

[SwordCoheir]

Anyone know, are groups allowed to claim it?
Such as:

1) Join caravan
2) Find people are doing it
3) Ask for pt invite
4) "We are full, and you took someone's spot"
5) Finish caravan
6) No profit

Yeah it's been a bit of an ongoing problem lately, like where groups will ninja the caravans before your group get's back to restart the next one.

Frankly it's just a pain in the ass to figure out a way that would prevent cheating without screwing your fellow man over or vice-versa.

Maybe they should just drop the cap on participants and the party mechanic and instead just increase the difficulty with each new member by adding more mobs at higher levels. It would make success impossible (or extremely difficult) if for example four people just ran to the end and don't intend on participating and just left the other four to try and do the run.

[indira]

Yeah it's been a bit of an ongoing problem lately, like where groups will ninja the caravans before your group get's back to restart the next one.

thats the problem with it way to restrictive and another thing that requires luck in the game to even do. there no excuses now about mass scale world events, GW2 done it and done it well. SE want to use systems that came out in the stoneage of MMO's like instances nothing is new or different just a rush to the boss and repeat.

[kazaran]

Rift actually did the world events first and it seems to be carryign over to other MMo's.

You get close to the area, and can select to join it and be grouped for it.

OR have a sign in till 8 people are reached.

[Asiaine]

To be honest, all these changes to how it counts if you are in, and the need to get into a party, and the high possibility of grief play, I've actually even avoided trying it. Maybe a 'simpler' implementation would be:

-- For each person who joins the caravan, the difficulty is increased (more mobs, higher levels).
-- Each time a person leaves the caravan (talks to NPC to quit), the difficulty is decreased.
-- A counter keeps track of how much a person is involved in the escort (healing, fighting, etc.)
-- At the end, a reward is given only if the person participated sufficiently (say 1 positive action every 5 minutes).

This would mean those who do not actively participate get nothing. Difficulty would only marginally increase due to 'idlers' being present (and the reward would increase as well). The fun bit is, if people join and run to the end, they get nothing but everyone else gets a bit more.

Could also go so far as: You have joined 5 times in a row, but did not participate. You are banned for 48 hours. (Or if they want to be really mean, lock them out of their grand company for a week for bad behaviour).

[indira]

Rift actually did the world events first and it seems to be carryign over to other MMo's.

You get close to the area, and can select to join it and be grouped for it.

OR have a sign in till 8 people are reached.

thats thinking on a small scale. it still leaves people out, its a caravan there should be no party its should be server wide as long as your in proximity of it and killing still or helping the chocobo's get back to the caravan.

if you ever played FFXI think of a world party like campaign no one is left out as long as you sign up. dont say it gonna be laggy this aint 2004 anymore other games can do mass scale stuff why cant the biggest RPG company on there second mmo do it?