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    Renen's Avatar
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    Renen Angel
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    Excalibur
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    I'd rather see SMN
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    Aedan Yarborough
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    I'd like to see RDM once the game has an enfeebler class already. RDM is a front line sword fighting jack of all trades, not the abomination it became in XI and the last thing I want to see is for that to happen again.

    SE do RDM justice in XIV.
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    Duelle Urelle
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    Diabolos
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Wynn View Post
    Just trying to help here. =P
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    Just trying to help here. =P
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    Can't tell if fake or leak <_< good job lol
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    Retired FFXI character: Ranok of Sylph

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    Duelle Urelle
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    Diabolos
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Zahak View Post
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    Can't tell if fake or leak <_< good job lol
    Thanks. I figured everyone would know the answer to that one, since I'm sure they can tell from the pixels and having seen a few 'shops in their time. Kinda like this one. >.>;

    Quote Originally Posted by Levian View Post
    I think RDM was done right, at least in regards to accurate portrayal according to lore. B grade swordsmanship, access to all but the highest tiers of black and white magic. Problem is it didn't seem to take into account that it was placed in an MMO setting.

    Problem was the playerbase pushed em to the back line alongside White and black mages. It was rare to see it used as anything other than a healing haste/refresh monkey. God help you if you drew your weapon to smack something in a party setting, you'd never hear the end of it.

    The inherent problem with a jack of all trades job in an MMO environment is that adequate will never be seen as good enough. If you're an ok meelee/magic damage dealing job and anything better is available, guess what will be fulfilling the DD role? Not you. I'm sure I don't need to point this out, but the group that's always overpopulated in the MMO Holy trinity is damage dealing classes. And if you're an ok healer...well you're still a healer and in every MMO i've played healers are the scarcest role, so guess where you'll be pressed into service. Just look at XI's Summoners, stuck healing from about level 10 until the late 60s/early 70s just because they had the mana pool to scrape by in the healing role with whm subbed.

    I'll go ahead and say it, if Redmage were to do anything other than buff/heal it would need to be a Spellsword capable of respectable damage. Not bottom rung, not "mediocre," I mean right there alongside the other damage dealing classes.
    Well said. Glad to see someone else is aware of this issue.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    Thanks. I figured everyone would know the answer to that one, since I'm sure they can tell from the pixels and having seen a few 'shops in their time. Kinda like this one. >.>;

    Well said. Glad to see someone else is aware of this issue.
    Well the back story actually sounds like something SE would really do, very creative of you
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    Retired FFXI character: Ranok of Sylph

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    Phen Deazur
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    Sargatanas
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    Pugilist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    Just trying to help here. =P
    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    Thanks. I figured everyone would know the answer to that one, since I'm sure they can tell from the pixels and having seen a few 'shops in their time. Kinda like this one. >.>;

    Well said. Glad to see someone else is aware of this issue.
    I keep throwing money at my screen but nothings happening D:
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    Ruby Manastorm
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    Adamantoise
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    I would like to see them eventually add a PUP where they can have a RDM puppet.
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    Axel Smith
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    Hyperion
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Wynn View Post
    I'd like to see RDM once the game has an enfeebler class already. RDM is a front line sword fighting jack of all trades, not the abomination it became in XI and the last thing I want to see is for that to happen again.

    SE do RDM justice in XIV.
    Totally agreex.x I long for the day of a true front line spell sword and if given the right abilities, a rdm could be an excellent addition to the front line battles! Possibly they can give themselves aura buffs that extend to the pt

    And don't blame SE for what happened to rdm...<_< I mean...look at what happened to nin
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    Luna Sushima
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    Siren
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    Samurai Lv 91
    SMN>RDM That is all ^.^
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