Why would you ever play ARC? I Hate the Class System.

[Malakhim]

Its just if i logged in as a Black Mage and identified my main role as a Black Mage, then i would expect to solo AND group on Black Mage, without the idea of Thaumaturge bobbing about in my mind. ;;

And that's exactly the point; you choose how you want to play. If you want to operate strictly as a specialized Black Mage, then by all means have at it. If you'd rather play as a versatile mage capable of a wider(though currently not incredibly wide) skill set with better small group/solo parameters, then stick with Thaumaturge. There is NO REASON that the two cannot coexist in harmony.

Keep in mind people that this whole time, we've been dealing with 1.xx limitations(which were VAST): Very few classes with few abilities that weren't either broken, redundant, or boring; and a serious dearth of content to name a few. Yoshi P and the dev team tried to work with said limitations and gave us the(very barebones) job system and interesting content such as dungeons, which were eventually balanced mostly for full party groups and job users. You're all mostly(and erroneously) assuming that 2.0 will carry on with those specs, but it will not. There are going to be all sorts of wide levels of content as far as what they've told us already, because said 1.xx limits are going to be dealt with entirely with the release of 2.0.

Why are people even bashing or criticsing the idea of a class/job that we know nearly nothing about?

Because the internet is full of impatience and volatile dispositions, I guess.

[Rannie]

Because Humans are full of impatience and volatile dispositions, I guess.

that's more of the truth... it's not the internet it's the humans behind the internet =)

[Akubikumo]

And that's exactly the point; you choose how you want to play. If you want to operate strictly as a specialized Black Mage, then by all means have at it. If you'd rather play as a versatile mage capable of a wider(though currently not incredibly wide) skill set with better small group/solo parameters, then stick with Thaumaturge. There is NO REASON that the two cannot coexist in harmony.

Exactly, the "community" Orca is talking about is only ONE SUBSET of the whole. Its a fascist scene who's only concern is Efficiency. Ok i get it. Knock yourselves out. Winning is nice, so i dont blame them for being ruthless about their own party set ups. But if the developers mean to support that kind of play style, and ONLY that kind, then us freedom-loving romantics are doomed. DooOOOOOOmmmmmed

@Malakhim: I kinda doubt they can live in harmony tbh. They can certainly occupy the same servers and even achieve equal results, but not together. The acolytes of the ONE TRUE WAY don't usually like libertarians/free agents in their parties .