Arcanist and Summoner artwork

[Renala]

so basically you're saying that because there were people who didn't like the game and didn't play it when it first came out and jumped onto the bandwagon (which is what Yoshida is wanting) after it's relaunched to be forced to "unlock" a class that isn't an advanced class that was no mention of it being an advanced class. And the reason why you need it to unlock the job summoner. Or even punish us because we've played the game since launch and complained about wanting a pet class or a new mage class since it's out of balance to begin with. All because carby may or may not be the first thing you get when you equip a book? I can see them waiting for a certain level then giving your carby like the do with cure on con but to force you to unlock it no it's never going to happen. they haven't done that for any of the classes they've done that for jobs

Your taking what I'm saying out of context. Let me break this down...


CLASS > JOB.

Arcanist being a CLASS, but not like the normal SEVEN CLASSES. It is an ADVANCED CLASS and therefor is unlocked. Same with musketeer or whatever the other new class will be.

So I am saying you have your normal 7 classes to pick from when you create a character. To get the new two that will be added in ARR, you need to do a quest of some level - 10, 15, 20, 30, whatever it maybe, and then its unlocked and your free to level. Heck, even if the quest is level 10, then it gives you the weathered book. HELL. Even a level ONE quest to give you the book rather then it being "Oh go buy this for 1315 gil!" would be better.

TL;DR - Just add it so you need to do a freaking quest to get the first weapon to level it. After that I could give a flying... *AHEM* anyway, I don't care about it being normal then. That way, further weapons are crafted(And are "Requires level #/##" to use, but you needed to do the first quest to get the level 1 weapon.)

[Rannie]

Your taking what I'm saying out of context. Let me break this down...


CLASS > JOB.

Arcanist being a CLASS, but not like the normal SEVEN CLASSES. It is an ADVANCED CLASS and therefor is unlocked. Same with musketeer or whatever the other new class will be.

So I am saying you have your normal 7 classes to pick from when you create a character. To get the new two that will be added in ARR, you need to do a quest of some level - 10, 15, 20, 30, whatever it maybe, and then its unlocked and your free to level. Heck, even if the quest is level 10, then it gives you the weathered book. HELL. Even a level ONE quest to give you the book rather then it being "Oh go buy this for 1315 gil!" would be better.

TL;DR - Just add it so you need to do a freaking quest to get the first weapon to level it. After that I could give a flying... *AHEM* anyway, I don't care about it being normal then. That way, further weapons are crafted(And are "Requires level #/##" to use, but you needed to do the first quest to get the level 1 weapon.)

No I know what you're saying. No need to break it down ^_^. You're not understanding me. There is no advance classes that is what the jobs are. Where does Yoshida say that arcanist is an "advanced" Class? Why even bother adding in more crap like that when that's what the lvl 30 job quests are for? That's what I'm saying

[Renala]

No I know what you're saying. No need to break it down ^_^. You're not understanding me. There is no advance classes that is what the jobs are. Where does Yoshida say that arcanist is an "advanced" Class? Why even bother adding in more crap like that when that's what the lvl 30 job quests are for? That's what I'm saying

He doesn't say it anywhere as far as I know. I am just saying. That's what I want, and that's how I'd view the two new classes as. The old seven are the base ones, any further are "unlocked" per say by a simple quest.

[Jennestia]

Let's see if Arcanist retains any of its "planned" spells, like the HP/MP/TP regen spell etc -- If so SCH still could branch off from it in the future since the XI iteration of SCH based on storyline, they're also very well versed in weather magic as well as concealing and utilizing trap style magic (i.e Paralyze/Blind/Silence tubes which players later gained access to via AN.)

If summoning comes from Arcanist, being well versed in other temporal and geological magic isn't out of the question.

[Rannie]

but the two new ones aren't both classes one's a class and the other is the job based off of that class remember the leak a week or two ago? Class Arcanist Job Summoner >.<

[Rannie]

Let's see if Arcanist retains any of its "planned" spells, like the HP/MP/TP regen spell etc -- If so SCH still could branch off from it in the future since the XI iteration of SCH based on storyline, they're also very well versed in weather magic as well as concealing and utilizing trap style magic (i.e Paralyze/Blind/Silence tubes which players later gained access to via AN.)

If summoning comes from Arcanist, being well versed in other temporal and geological magic isn't out of the question.

and I would like to see me a smexy sch in the game. and you're right it would fit in too but we'll have to wait and see

[Firon]

I <3 carby he was my fav smn in 11 and i am glad he is the main one in this game carby was a pretty good doing job in XI at keeping you alive. Looks like MNK/SMN/BLM just became my new mains.

[Renala]

but the two new ones aren't both classes one's a class and the other is the job based off of that class remember the leak a week or two ago? Class Arcanist Job Summoner >.<

They said - someplace, I don't keep links to quote or anything - that they are adding two new classes(And jobs off of them) in ARR. Arcanist is the first one they've aired/released info on.

[Bowen]

Let's see if Arcanist retains any of its "planned" spells, like the HP/MP/TP regen spell etc -- If so SCH still could branch off from it in the future since the XI iteration of SCH based on storyline, they're also very well versed in weather magic as well as concealing and utilizing trap style magic (i.e Paralyze/Blind/Silence tubes which players later gained access to via AN.)

If summoning comes from Arcanist, being well versed in other temporal and geological magic isn't out of the question.

From the wiki:

Accompanied by a familiar in battle, adepts of the art of arcanum derive their might from symbols of power born of geometric techniques hailing from across the southern seas. Held within special grimoires, these symbols lend shape to the arcanist's aether, thereby allowing him to produce myriad powerful spells.
Using magicked gemstones upon which the selfsame symbols are graven, arcanists are also able to summon forth the ephemeral being Carbuncle to carry out their bidding.

So, not only do they have the ability to summon, they can cast other magicks.

[KoujiGeki]

arcanist isn't the job though smn is and they will be debuffing yes debuffs will help in primal and boss battles more than you think and carby if there's a hound of mobs that are summoned like say example in the plumes with garuda you can sic carby on one of them to help get rid of them *shrugs*

Ah yes carby could be usefull with Plumes. If he some type aoes, very useful. But they would have to even with, Mnks aura pulse, drgs rings of talons, or the aoe brds have not sure of name. They would have to effectively be as good as those to replace a DD with garuda. You cant replace the Blm cause they are needed for Chirada and do no dmg to plumes. Which also reminded me that if carbys aoes (if he gets them) are magic based he wont kill Plumes cause they resist magic.

Art im afraid will though fall in with the other classes after a certain fall into the abyss of the other Classes. Smn ill wait on to touch cause there is no info on that yet as far as i see.