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    it's really strange though how nobody complained about the animations two weeks ago. back then it was... grass. and now nobody's complaining about grass. it's something different.

    this community just picks some TOTALLY RANDOM THING to flip out about and fires up the bandwagon. it's ridiculous to watch. and most of the people doing most of the flipping out seem to be the players who largely play the least. what's that about?

    and we haven't even had an alpha test yet. people are just pressing their faces up against their monitors tearing apart what essentially amounts to a commercial advertising the upcoming release of a product. it's like when dominos decided to remake its pizzas, and reintroduce them to the public hoping to correct the mistakes people pointed out at focus groups. so they release a commercial talking about the new pizza and the ingredients and showing a couple people eating it.

    ...and people watching this commercial start flipping out about the SHAPE of the PARMESAN CHEESE PARTICLES. and the pepperonis LOOK like they taste bad. and the CHEESE melted in a REALLY STRANGE PATTERN. they better FIX this right now!

    okay but have you tried the pizza yet? can you be sure about these problems through experience and personal testing?

    no. the answer is no.

    so try the pizza first. if it's still not satisfactory to you, tell the devs and give them constructive examples of what you did and didn't like, and what could make it better. don't flip out about a PICTURE of the pizza, or how it looks in a COMMERCIAL.

    and last, but not least- while presentation is absolutely important, yes... the bottom line is that the pizza has to taste good. if it doesn't taste good, it doesn't matter how good the pizza looks- nobody will eat it. get the taste right and you can start to worry more about the presentation.

    why is that important to think about?

    ffxiv 1.0 was a pizza with all looks and tasted like cardboard. look how that worked out. so you want to keep your cardboard-tasting pizza because you fear change?

    bon appetit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ikkenoe View Post
    so try the pizza first. if it's still not satisfactory to you, tell the devs and give them constructive examples of what you did and didn't like, and what could make it better.
    The whole point of this forum is to give feedback over things we see about this game, either current changes or future changes. Nothing is wrong with saying ON TIME that something is not satisfactory to us.
    Because if we wait until we can taste the pizza aka FFXIV is released it might be too late to tell them a problem/something we are not happy about.
    This is the first time I complained about anything in 2.0 because it's something essential to how I pick which MMO to play. The "grass protest" was never a real protest to begin with because only one or two people ever flipped out over it while everyone else was perfectly fine with it.
    Here everyone agrees that the current animations look better than what we can see in the current trailer, people only argue about how important they are.
    Nobody would complain though about having realistic-looking animations WITHOUT getting animation lock back.

    Because don't forget - no matter how great your pizza tastes, nobody is gonna buy it if the cardboard box it is in has a picture of a pile of dog crap on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoli View Post
    Because don't forget - no matter how great your pizza tastes, nobody is gonna buy it if the cardboard box it is in has a picture of a pile of dog crap on it.
    another stupid example. gross exaggeration. sky is falling rhetoric. 2.0 looks fantastic. people are just splitting hairs over preferences in animation style.

    i feel like i'm trying to talk sense into religious zealots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ikkenoe View Post
    another stupid example. gross exaggeration. sky is falling rhetoric. 2.0 looks fantastic. people are just splitting hairs over preferences in animation style.

    i feel like i'm trying to talk sense into religious zealots.
    the graphics look amazing, the animations look godawful
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ikkenoe View Post
    it's really strange though how nobody complained about the animations two weeks ago. back then it was... grass. and now nobody's complaining about grass. it's something different.

    this community just picks some TOTALLY RANDOM THING to flip out about and fires up the bandwagon. it's ridiculous to watch. and most of the people doing most of the flipping out seem to be the players who largely play the least. what's that about?

    and we haven't even had an alpha test yet. people are just pressing their faces up against their monitors tearing apart what essentially amounts to a commercial advertising the upcoming release of a product. it's like when dominos decided to remake its pizzas, and reintroduce them to the public hoping to correct the mistakes people pointed out at focus groups. so they release a commercial talking about the new pizza and the ingredients and showing a couple people eating it.

    ...and people watching this commercial start flipping out about the SHAPE of the PARMESAN CHEESE PARTICLES. and the pepperonis LOOK like they taste bad. and the CHEESE melted in a REALLY STRANGE PATTERN. they better FIX this right now!

    okay but have you tried the pizza yet? can you be sure about these problems through experience and personal testing?

    no. the answer is no.

    so try the pizza first. if it's still not satisfactory to you, tell the devs and give them constructive examples of what you did and didn't like, and what could make it better. don't flip out about a PICTURE of the pizza, or how it looks in a COMMERCIAL.

    and last, but not least- while presentation is absolutely important, yes... the bottom line is that the pizza has to taste good. if it doesn't taste good, it doesn't matter how good the pizza looks- nobody will eat it. get the taste right and you can start to worry more about the presentation.

    why is that important to think about?

    ffxiv 1.0 was a pizza with all looks and tasted like cardboard. look how that worked out. so you want to keep your cardboard-tasting pizza because you fear change?

    bon appetit.
    People were complaining about the animation two weeks ago.

    lurk moar.

    The whole pizza analogy doesn't work seeing as presentation does matter in video games.

    And even in fine dining, the best meal ever will be marked down if it's a sloppy mess on the plate.
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