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  1. #21
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    Hikozaemon Kenkonken
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firon View Post
    No need to bind or grav if your sleep was gonna land everytime. You can bind and grav stuff in this game as well ppl only know how to play one way. Also the onlything you needed to check in XI for ele weakness was to see if it resisted thunder or ice cause even if a mob was weak to lets say earth both of those spells did more dmg.
    Not if you actually had decent gear sets like i did. then most often the element weakness spell always did alot more dmg for me and sometimes even saved me MP. But then again i stopped playing blm at one point and started using pup which seems to oddly ignore alot of those problems entirely.
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  2. #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firon View Post
    No need to bind or grav if your sleep was gonna land everytime. You can bind and grav stuff in this game as well ppl only know how to play one way. Also the onlything you needed to check in XI for ele weakness was to see if it resisted thunder or ice cause even if a mob was weak to lets say earth both of those spells did more dmg.
    So you pretty much decided to not play Black-mage properly then? Casting elemental spells on the proper monsters especially when taking weather and the elemental day into consideration could get you much more damage than just blindly casting Ice/thunder.

    Gravity/Bind were your standby skills while waiting for sleep cooldowns and to avoid terrible moments if/when your sleep was resisted after you woke the mob up.

    Of course I only speak of XI pre 99 playing blm properly at 75 took some time and knowledge to do properly. There was alot to take into consideration to make your glass cannon worth that party slot, or to get mad exp solo.
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  3. #23
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    Firon Veleth
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    So you pretty much decided to not play Black-mage properly then? Casting elemental spells on the proper monsters especially when taking weather and the elemental day into consideration could get you much more damage than just blindly casting Ice/thunder.

    Gravity/Bind were your standby skills while waiting for sleep cooldowns and to avoid terrible moments if/when your sleep was resisted after you woke the mob up.

    Of course I only speak of XI pre 99 playing blm properly at 75 took some time and knowledge to do properly. There was alot to take into consideration to make your glass cannon worth that party slot, or to get mad exp solo.
    No it wouldn't any good geared blm who played XI will tell you that casting Ice on a mob who is weak to earth is much better idea. There was no need to bind or grav a mob when you could kill it in 2 cast.
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  4. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firon View Post
    No it wouldn't any good geared blm who played XI will tell you that casting Ice on a mob who is weak to earth is much better idea. There was no need to bind or grav a mob when you could kill it in 2 cast.
    So again, you never fought much worth fighting if it died in 2 casts. Now if you were burning Beastmaster pets that's one thing.
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  5. #25
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    Eisen Gramul
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    Quote Originally Posted by mysterytaru View Post
    I'm done arguing about this. The OP may be passionate about his complaints, but he lacks proper delivery that would see him taken seriously. If he wants people to listen, he can start by dumping the angry ranting and consider his words more carefully. Also, his complaints are largely moot with this version being scrapped in 2 months time so beating a dead horse isn't helping him either. Good day to you.
    Yay I win an internet argument!

    I'll put up on the shelf of my life accomplishments.
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  6. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    So again, you never fought much worth fighting if it died in 2 casts. Now if you were burning Beastmaster pets that's one thing.
    Did you even play XI? Everyone who played blm could see from the start that thunder/Ice was leagues ahead of All the other spells its a reason why ppl merited those spells only. There is no point of casting Stone IV on a mob who is weak to earth when it does 900 dmg when you can cast Thunder/Ice for 1.2k dmg+
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firon View Post
    There is no point of casting Stone IV on a mob who is weak to earth when it does 900 dmg when you can cast Thunder/Ice for 1.2k dmg+


    If you were trying to be MP efficient in longer fights yeah 900 damage could often beat out 1.2k damage at nearly half the MP cost...
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  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by mysterytaru View Post
    tl;dr "WAAAAAAAAAH! I want to play FFXI but not play FFXI!"
    have you tried the gc end boss with the blm guss you have not i have and im good at with af as well as others but we were running out of mp and have to stop to regain with the crapy convert which is causeing unnessary whm attention and can use only 15min cc and af is mostly crap l kind of hate the healer boots when the sorta nice boots are the mages one but with i cant meld them he make grat points and i fell the same way also one clas wep /armor like mailbraker/darksteel armor which is a set below darklight no one playes gla pld is greate /in remake we can only hope this is fixed but he and us dont want the same crappy setup in remake
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    Last edited by dragorian; 09-01-2012 at 06:44 PM. Reason: micro keyboard mistype

  9. #29
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    Tamako Lalako
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    I don't like the idea of having two jobs at the same time as soon we'll have PvP.. - Not sure if XI had pvp because I didn't really play it. But from my experience from Guild Wars (with the dual class system) it was somewhat difficult to balance things.

    However I agree with basically everything said in this.

    Maybe instead of having two jobs, we can have dedicated support jobs?

    Who knows, maybe the two job system /can/ be pulled off.
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  10. #30
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    Lawl...

    Coz BLM isn't OP enough! Needs moar "BLM Fantasy XIV"

    BLM should be able to tank, heal and nuke, all at the same time... while crafting its own gathering nodes.

    Yep.
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