Do not force level caps on content - You segregate the player base

[Valhol]

Players are already segregated (high level from low level) by current content. High level players are not gonna party with low level players merely because the content they are working towards isn't the same stuff. Only way to effectively make those two groups do things together is to create content that can be repeated for better or additional rewards. Such as: if non-speed run Aurum Vale dropped Darklight bodies, or if helping people through storyline quest gave you multiple elixirs, GC seals or large sums of gil. I think people that believe there should be no segregation between low level and high level players are just too lazy to put together their own groups, or seek out groups with the same skill level.

[RudyFails]

I usually don't agree with the whole "omg you don't like FFXI you want easy mode" stuff, and pulling the "everything in FFXI is a timesink, not a challenge" card is cool too, but when you bring CoP into it then someone better slap a bib on you right now.

You wanna know why no one helped anyone else? Cause that shit was hard. Most of the missions involved traversing through one of the new (at the time) areas dodging true sight mobs that used "death" abilities (remember that?). Not only would it take a decent amount of time to manage your way to the actual mission fights (in which most were instances, if I remember correctly) but you probably weren't going to win the first time... or the fifth time. That right there was 10x as "challenging" as any of the content at the endgame.

There are about 1,048,456,500 posts about people protesting time sinks and demanding "challenging", "skill based" content. Look at CoP. That is it right there, no doubt. And if you think about it, if there is content that people will do once and never touch again, and you know for a fact that it didn't revolve around time sinks, then I'd say you made some pretty damn challenging content. The only thing that annoyed me when I did it was that I remember buying all new gear to fit the level cap. That got aggravating.

Now even if this all became real and there was a level cap, who's to say you still couldn't solo it at the forced cap, or duo? I'm personally stuck on the R25 GC ifrit ONLY because it requires a party to enter and I can't find anyone who either needs it or is willing to help. In what universe is that not exactly the same tweaked concept? Whatever. If it was me and I was working hard making a game and people blew through the new "mission" arcs or whatever on their maxed ranks I'd feel foolish and insulted. And by the care and time they seem to be putting in 2.0's release, I've been put under the impression that they take some pride in what they create. But hey, that's just my 2 cents, throw it in your piggy bank.

[Kiote]

Not gonna read this thread, but I would like to throw out there. The only reason level capped content was hard to find a party for in XI is because they didn't have a content finder. If done right, FFXIV's will let you search for multiple contents at once and people will be able to find whatever they want.

Still wish it didn't auto teleport players to dungeons though..

[PSxpert2011]

Saying "level cap segregates people" is like saying "guns kill people".

People are given options, decisions and either choose what's best for them or others...

All I can do is support level cap battle so that it's a decent challenge but not too easy that you can solo.

If Ifrit was going to be capped, allow a low-man(3~5) party to take him out! You can at-least get experience fun times w/o ruining the experience..

People are the first to segregate and need no help doing it, examples:

... i know i'm willing to help someone do toto-rak(i have many times) because i can run through it and be done in a few minutes on my capped class. if it takes me an hour because i have my class lowered i'm not going to waste my time to do it with them.

if it sounds rude then so be it, but just not going to help with low level content with that being the case.

Level caps were one of the worst shit ever done by SE.

I wouldn't be surprised if others segregate themselves from you.
Content SE develops suppose to bring people together. When you ever need help for something impossible, you can always count on someone else right?

[darkstarpoet1]

I wouldn't be surprised if others segregate themselves from you.
Content SE develops suppose to bring people together. When you ever need help for something impossible, you can always count on someone else right?

you are correct that people will automatically segregate from each other. that's automatically going to happen. the point i was making and have made multiple times and been told repeatedly by others that some are willing to help do low level content ONLY because they can do so quickly.

no matter the reason i am one of the few on my server that will even take the few minutes out to help someone. if people aren't even willing to take 10-15 minutes out of their time now then what level of logic says they will be willing to spend more than that later? at least i have been willing to take the 10-15 minutes to help someone out which is alot more than i can say about the vast majority of others.