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  1. #1
    Player
    Humor's Avatar
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    No' Name
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90

    Beastmaster class is underwhelming

    First off, let me start by saying this is easily my favorite game (next to monster Hunter, possibly tied), and I have over 15K hours into this game, with nearly all classes lvl 100, and 15+ Alts (for bards mostly). Been around (on and off) since before ARR.

    I was excited for the beastmaster class when it first got announced, even if the job was a "limited job". My hype started to wear out when I had realized the class can only go to level 50, which was actually an odd choice, considering the Blue Mage can go all the way to level 80, with HUNDREDS of skills (albeit most of them useless, or you just find an overpowered combo).

    I had thought maybe they would bring back the "oldschool" Scholar/SMN system, where you actually get to control your "pet/summon" where they literally had a different hotbar, where you could freely choose from a list of skills, but that is not the case. This was the perfect opportunity to try and bring back that system as well, considering it IS a Limited job class, that has absolutely nothing to do with the story, so why not give the players who want a more "Advanced" class back? Instead we get like 3 dinky skills to pull off which are either on a ridiculously long cool down timer, or a separate TP bar which BOTH the player, and their companion NEED to fill up before doing any significant amount of damage. This system in general is absolutely painful, considering the "pet" TP bar fills up at what is seemingly triple the speed of the player.

    As a class that's touted as a "Solo" class, I was kind of figuring you could summon more than one companion to do dungeons, and other content, since they long ago stripped away the ability to have a separate companion hotbar (with actual skills), but nope, most, if not ALL of the pets you get are very generic, don't have any good skills, their auto attacks are 10x weaker than the players auto attacks, and it just simple feels like the class was made simply to be a "Card Collection" mechanic, which we already have triple triad for that.

    The beastmaster class as it stands now, has no right NOT to enter into dungeons as a normal class, and it being a limited class, and how piss-poor it actually feels to play, makes no sense. "Limited Jobs", at least in my opinion, much like the Blue Mage, are supposed to be "Fun" classes you're meant to enjoy, and feel powerful, granted Blue Mage was the ONLY limited job class to compare it to.

    The Beastmaster, even if it wasn't a limited Job, and could queue up for dungeons, and do all the content I feel, wouldn't be used much. It's DPS would be placed even below a Bard, or at least the "fun" factor.

    There are some good idea's with the class, but as it stands now, it's boring, and definitely NOT a solo class.

    Just to preface, I only got to level 20 yesterday, when I started the class, took me around 2 hours (solo), and I have yet to reach the Crucible, which I HIGHLY doubt will change my mind on how the class is as of right now.
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    Yeah not gonna lie I expected more pet/beast unique abilities and less "play the class rotation" kind of deal...

    Having to make combos with the beast is a good idea, but the building up and gauge part of it is just painful, especially in crucible.

    I'd rather focus on what my beasts are supposed to be good at.
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    U'hyana Qali
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    Cerberus
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Considering 90% of the job's content is the Crucible, I don't think you can really have an educated opinion on the job having not done it.

    It's perfectly fine to not like it, but that's like saying, I dunno, you don't like Black Mage because it's really repetitive in Halatali.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sacae View Post
    Considering 90% of the job's content is the Crucible, I don't think you can really have an educated opinion on the job having not done it.

    It's perfectly fine to not like it, but that's like saying, I dunno, you don't like Black Mage because it's really repetitive in Halatali.
    Counterpoint: perhaps the fact that the job is literally bland and does nothing outside of the crucible is actually a negative design point especially when it comes to onboarding new players trying it out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    Counterpoint: perhaps the fact that the job is literally bland and does nothing outside of the crucible is actually a negative design point especially when it comes to onboarding new players trying it out.
    literally™
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    Butter Pig
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    Malboro
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Sacae View Post
    Considering 90% of the job's content is the Crucible, I don't think you can really have an educated opinion on the job having not done it.

    It's perfectly fine to not like it, but that's like saying, I dunno, you don't like Black Mage because it's really repetitive in Halatali.
    More like 99% of the job's content is Crucible. "Solo job" can't solo anything of the equivalent level, and there's a clear push for players to purchase many of the beasts via Crucible gourds rather than dealing with the opaque capture mechanic. It's very very VERY obvious that Crucible was designed first and then BST was hastily slapped together just to fulfill the requirement of having a limited job. Honestly it feels like malicious compliance from the dev.
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    I look just like the roes next door... if you happen to live next door to an amusement park.

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    Khloe Lafihna
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    Balmung
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    Pugilist Lv 83
    Quote Originally Posted by Sacae View Post
    Considering 90% of the job's content is the Crucible, I don't think you can really have an educated opinion on the job having not done it.

    It's perfectly fine to not like it, but that's like saying, I dunno, you don't like Black Mage because it's really repetitive in Halatali.
    for a limited job, they dropped the ball on beast master. its a limited summoner job with skins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MsMisato View Post
    for a limited job, they dropped the ball on beast master. its a limited summoner job with skins.
    I'd say it isn't even that much, the entire job is just a gameplay mechanic of the Crucible mode, akin to OC's Phantom Jobs.
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    Mei Yumei
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    Ragnarok
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    White Mage Lv 100
    I'm with you, I'm close to level 30 and I find it plain and boring so far. Collecting beasts is pure RNG as well, which is also boring. Is just using the trap skill and kill the beast until you finally get the beast, which in some cases, is, a bunch of beastmasters chasing the same beast and praying to be lucky enough.
    Beasts works kinda like the summoner pets but just auto-attack until you need to use, so far, at my level, two skills before evaporating and having to summon another beast.
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    Asuka Kirai
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    It's surprising they went this route, seeing as they later went in to add raid achievements etc., to Blue Mage.

    I just don't see long-term this content is going to amount to much
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