Let us have overworld PVP

[VeyaAkemi]

Ultimately the point goes back to something I said earlier, to me FFXIV isn't just what it is, it is also what it isn't, and it isn't a game with big focus on PvP, PvP in XIV for as long as I have played, which is not as long as some here but 4 years is plenty time, it is a secondary game mode, and I like it that way, I like that it is a minor part of the game that I don't have to even look at, every suggestion in this thread is boiling down to removing things I like about the game for things I absolutely despite, that's why I am arguing against them, and a lot of the changes suggested here would cause me to drop the game altogether.

Like if you can tell me, "go play a single player game", which misses a lot of the feeling a MMO still has even at a relatively low population but I disgress, why not tell the people who are asking for open world PvP to go play a game that already has open world PvP?

[JohnLakeside]

And if that happens, then be it, but until then, I want to maintain the experience that I was given, not have it ruined as the cost for something I despise.

Okay, so you despise partaking in PvP. Fair enough I guess. But why do you despise the mere presence of its availability for other players? It's not like you'd be forced to engage with it.

[VeyaAkemi]

Okay, so you despise partaking in PvP. Fair enough I guess. But why do you despise the mere presence of its availability for other players? It's not like you'd be forced to engage with it.

That wasn't about it being available, if a new server that has open world PvP was made, so long as I never have to hear about it, in the same vein that I don't want to hear about games like Albion Online any more than I absolutely have to, I wouldn't give a shit, that was specifically about tearing down Dynamis worlds to make them into PvP servers.

[Selsix]

Like if you can tell me, "go play a single player game", which misses a lot of the feeling a MMO still has even at a relatively low population but I disgress, why not tell the people who are asking for open world PvP to go play a game that already has open world PvP?

Because this is adding a feature that would potentially benefit the game and get people into the currently dead open world. It synergizes with the identity of an MMO, so it's something I feel is worth adding. For the record, I wouldn't even partake. I just think objectively it would be beneficial as a new feature.

The reason why this argument doesn't really work both ways is because the point of an MMO is supposed to be player interaction. Wanting nearly empty servers directly conflicts with this identity. Dedicated PvP servers do the opposite, they encourage interaction between players which honestly is something this game needs much more of.

[hydralus]

I played a game called Champions Online that had optional open world duels. It was neat. Got to test your builds against other people.

[Aidorouge]

Because this is adding a feature that would potentially benefit the game and get people into the currently dead open world. It synergizes with the identity of an MMO, so it's something I feel is worth adding. For the record, I wouldn't even partake. I just think objectively it would be beneficial as a new feature.

The reason why this argument doesn't really work both ways is because the point of an MMO is supposed to be player interaction. Wanting nearly empty servers directly conflicts with this identity. Dedicated PvP servers do the opposite, they encourage interaction between players which honestly is something this game needs much more of.

Except PVP only worlds in FF14 would be even deader than Dynamis is right now. Hell, they'd be even worse off than Materia. You wouldn't be saving those worlds, you'd be cremating them.

Some PVP "lawless jagd" somewhere in the open world is fine, though it would probably see about as much activity as the arena does at the Wolf's Den... but let's not ruin entire data centers/FCs/friend groups by turning places like Dynamis into outright radioactive zones.

[TeresaFortell]

There would be no rewards for fighting people.

They probably need to give people incentives to PvP. Maybe sprinkle some tomestones and gil for the winner.

[Dreadlime]

Back when I played WoW, the RP-PVP server I was on used to hold player organized pvp events. We'd pick a zone on one of the continents and then work out the date and time on the forum. The Horde would start on one end of the zone and Alliance would be on the other, and we fought it out in the middle. The events were well attended, and the game would often turn into a slideshow, and sometimes we ended up crashing the continent. More often than not, there were city raids going during and after the grand melee. It was a lot of fun.
I wouldn't mind having an open world pvp zone, especially if there's plenty of interesting terrain and maybe some artillery or other things we can interact with. It might be nice to have a couple of factions that players could join and some objectives. Maybe doing certain things could provide zone wide buffs or debuffs, or there could be npc caravans or patrols from the factions that players could attack or escort. Maybe not a full game mode per se, but something players could use as a framework.

[justausername]

Oh god no. Requesting a duel sure. But this is not a pvp game and should never be.

[Oichi]

Sure, why not. This game will never recover from Dawntrail's writing, they can add pvp to overworld to kill it faster.