Relics...?

[fusional]

Yeah too bad people were talking about Hamlet Defense in terms of luck, but I'll use your post:

What happened to this? Telling others to stop making blanket statements when this is all you do? Follow your own advice before you spout it off to others.

except without explicitly denoting you're referencing hamlet specifically, *you* are the one making an ambiguous statement that could go one way or another- however it suits you for the current argument. don't deflect. don't project. as far as what "people" were talking about, guess what- more ambiguity. "people" are talking about every stage of the relic quest, *not just* hamlet specifically. perhaps instead of just making an awfully general reference to "people" you should specify which ones you're talking about. (you did quote me, so that would seem to imply you know how that works.)

and so when you make a vague, sweeping comment about luck not equating to skill without clarifying exactly how you mean it- you're damn right i'm going to swiftly squash any suggestion that somehow all our progress has been based on luck alone.

i'm following my advice. maybe you should start, too.

and then maybe grow a set and post on your main account, troll.

[Suirieko]

Fraction leve has nothing to do with luck.
Darkhold has nothing to do with luck.
Spirit Bond has nothing to do with luck.
Caravan and behest has nothing to do with luck.
Beastmen coins has as much luck as every other farming
Killing the beastmen NM has nothing to do with luck (except you are in a PUG party who don't know how to fight them)
Killing Leve NM has nothing to do with luck

In a sense. Caravan is more so about luck because you don't always get the 1000 seal run. It's all about the number of mobs that spawn in this bit.

However all of these bit mentioned above, are actually, if anything, the easiest part of the quest. The Darkhold in 15 minutes is probably the hardest part of all those listed above, and it's not THAT challenging.

For the most part. Both CC and AV as well as Garuda and Ifrit Extreme are the only real road blocks that only takes a real skillful and dedicated group to get through.

Those parts take a lot of practice between the groups and continued persistent to get better. That's skill. The only part people were generally talking about was the Hamlet, which, you can't deny is pretty asinine.

[fusional]

However all of these bit mentioned above, are actually, if anything, the easiest part of the quest. The Darkhold in 15 minutes is probably the hardest part of all those listed above, and it's not THAT challenging.

you'll feel much differently when you get to faction NMs.

[Suirieko]

you'll feel much differently when you get to faction NMs.

Perhaps. I'm more looking forward to Extreme Ifrit because of both difficulty and the fact that it could be a fun fight. I'm really not worried about the difficulty of the quest really. Just the Hamlet that really makes me want to pull my hair out cause it took 100+ run for me to finally have seals dropping to me.

Then again, that's probably the game's way of punishing me for managing to pull 1/1 on the double melded Obelisk. >.>

[Madruk]

Spend a week or two farming mats to get into top 3, you wont regret it. I've been so bored lately I wanted to see how fast I could get 9 seals on an alt with all the excess points I had left saved up from my first round. Two days done.

[Chardrizard]

Spend a week or two farming mats to get into top 3, you wont regret it. I've been so bored lately I wanted to see how fast I could get 9 seals on an alt with all the excess points I had left saved up from my first round. Two days done.

but it requires me to put in work for a definite progress and ignore RNG, screw that.

[Drewbie]

Hey Reika )

[Felis]

The only part people were generally talking about was the Hamlet, which, you can't deny is pretty asinine.

Technically Hamlet is not a part of the quest. You only need it to get the quest.

[BlackomegaKingofwaffles]

and then maybe grow a set and post on your main account, troll.

If you click his name the other char that pops up is Razaroic Ashtur of Durandal mystery solved.

[Elexia]

If you click his name the other char that pops up is Razaroic Ashtur of Durandal mystery solved.

Which is my brother's character. Mine isn't even linked to the forum display.