Relics...?

[Drewbie]

Hello guys and gals and devs i would love it if u can help me out here i want to get a relic we are doing hamlets none stop but with the game shutting down on nov1 idk if we should keep grinding seals if it will not be part of the relic quest any more can u tell us if we will still need them in 2.0 (seals that is) please please dev help!!!!

[Niqote]

Getting a few Hamlet seals is the least of your problems... But it would be fantastic to know exactly how the relic quest will change

[Req]

The thing about the seals is that they have no purpose other than to give you access to the relic quest, so my guess is they will still be used unless they decide to give them another person. Like the above poster said though, the seals are the least of your problems, especially if you want to get a relic before the servers shut down. Ifrit alone takes about 1-2 weeks to master on average for a typical linkshell so time is probably your biggest enemy at the moment.

[fusional]

The thing about the seals is that they have no purpose other than to give you access to the relic quest, so my guess is they will still be used unless they decide to give them another person. Like the above poster said though, the seals are the least of your problems, especially if you want to get a relic before the servers shut down. Ifrit alone takes about 1-2 weeks to master on average for a typical linkshell so time is probably your biggest enemy at the moment.

the LSs doing it in 1 or 2 weeks are a bit above average. 'typical' linkshells can expect it to take closer to 4-5+ weeks... which is why you don't see very many NA LS's with relic.

If SE were smart they'd get rid of this requirement all together (yes I've been long past this phase) -- as said, it's just a really unnecessary step when you get down to it, 1 of each? Sure, 3x is just overkill on the worthlessness. The only revision I see for this unless they completely redo some stuff mainly fall within the primal steps and dungeon steps given their natural changes in ARR.

yeah, right, sure. let's just marginalize more content for the casuals. let's take the challenge and work out of every aspect of the game so there's nothing left for people who play specifically for that.

great idea, as usual. except, you know- relic is supposed to take a bit of luck, a lot of work and a lot of skill. i guess we just shouldn't bother having relic at all?

anyway, my LS has gotten full seal sets for about two dozen players now, and hamlet isn't even anywhere close to a priority. people need to stop making excuses and just get it done.

[Elexia]

the LSs doing it in 1 or 2 weeks are a bit above average. 'typical' linkshells can expect it to take closer to 4-5+ weeks... which is why you don't see very many NA LS's with relic.



yeah, right, sure. let's just marginalize more content for the casuals. let's take the challenge and work out of every aspect of the game so there's nothing left for people who play specifically for that.

great idea, as usual. except, you know- relic is supposed to take a bit of luck, a lot of work and a lot of skill. i guess we just shouldn't bother having relic at all?

anyway, my LS has gotten full seal sets for about two dozen players now, and hamlet isn't even anywhere close to a priority. people need to stop making excuses and just get it done.

Luck =/= Skill.

[fusional]

Luck =/= Skill.

oh, right, we're just incredibly lucky. so lucky that we facerolled through the hardest faction leve NMs in a matter of hours, ifrit extreme in under a week for first kill... and van darnus hard in just a couple days. yep, you got me there.

you =/= knowing what you're talking about.

[Elexia]

you =/= knowing what you're talking about.

Yeah too bad people were talking about Hamlet Defense in terms of luck, but I'll use your post:

tl;dr don't make excuses and blanket statements about others

What happened to this? Telling others to stop making blanket statements when this is all you do? Follow your own advice before you spout it off to others.

[Suirieko]

the LSs doing it in 1 or 2 weeks are a bit above average. 'typical' linkshells can expect it to take closer to 4-5+ weeks... which is why you don't see very many NA LS's with relic.



yeah, right, sure. let's just marginalize more content for the casuals. let's take the challenge and work out of every aspect of the game so there's nothing left for people who play specifically for that.

great idea, as usual. except, you know- relic is supposed to take a bit of luck, a lot of work and a lot of skill. i guess we just shouldn't bother having relic at all?

anyway, my LS has gotten full seal sets for about two dozen players now, and hamlet isn't even anywhere close to a priority. people need to stop making excuses and just get it done.

Skill is one thing. Having to repeat an event 100+ time to finish all 9 seals isn't even skill. That's just pure luck, especially when you're doing 60K~70K runs 95% of the time.

[darkstarpoet1]

Skill is one thing. Having to repeat an event 100+ time to finish all 9 seals isn't even skill. That's just pure luck, especially when you're doing 60K~70K runs 95% of the time.

no hamlets aren't skill. that is all about being dedicated and motivated to do them. the other parts of the quest outside of the hamlets and double melding are more skill involved.

most groups don't have the skill and coordination to get a 25 min speed run in either dungeon much less complete it in 17 minutes.

most groups can't go through and kill garuda in less than 10 min without anyone dying.

most groups can't beat ifrit extreme.

i'm not saying that the entire quest is skill related, but to act like the entire quest is luck based is off base. yes, there are parts that are just spam the same stuff over and over and hope to get lucky, but multiple parts of the quest does actually require skill and most groups are not able to reach the level required.

[Cascade]

no hamlets aren't skill. that is all about being dedicated and motivated to do them. the other parts of the quest outside of the hamlets and double melding are more skill involved.

most groups don't have the skill and coordination to get a 25 min speed run in either dungeon much less complete it in 17 minutes.

most groups can't go through and kill garuda in less than 10 min without anyone dying.

most groups can't beat ifrit extreme.

i'm not saying that the entire quest is skill related, but to act like the entire quest is luck based is off base. yes, there are parts that are just spam the same stuff over and over and hope to get lucky, but multiple parts of the quest does actually require skill and most groups are not able to reach the level required.

you didn't even add in the FNMs some of those fights are rough and ive seen groups wipe to them for 3 days