Can someone give me a DRG skill rotation?

[Malix]

Slight change and this is pretty much as good as it gets for single target DPS.

i wouldn't use chameleon unless you really need it and if your tank is just bad to where u need to use it as part of an opening rotation than you arent likely to reach your full dmg potential regardless. i generally have to use only chameleon at best and hardly ever use elusive and i have stat caps with a good spear.

[ShadowCadja]

"You're wrong and I do not back up anything I say with facts." = replying just to say "you're wrong" = forum troll. Try harder guy.

I have a reason for why I said what I did. As a well geared, skilled DRG you're going to be able to build enmity off raw damage faster than any WAR and most PLD's and if you do not need Chameleon and Elusive Jump on cooldown then you're not doing enough damage and you should look at getting a new gear set and practice some more or you have a very impressive PLD tanking. One of the big boons DRG gets is the reduce enmity skills which increase your max damage output without taking hate.

You pretend to act like I don't know what I'm talking about but here, look my character up. Garuda (post mana burn) + 5CSR CC/AV. I'm no noob. Go on and pretend like it's "my way or the highway" I offered my advice and if the OP doesn't like it he doesn't have to listen to me.

Btw, the irony of what I bolded is effing hilarious.

Actually he is correct, those "5" seconds over the course of a long fight, there is only 2 atm really though, are pretty precious with just waiting on a AA and throwing weapon right away is around like what, 800-900 tp more ? That's huge in terms of DPS increase.

And if you need to be using Chameleon/Elusive Jump everytime is up, then you should probably look for a better tank most likely.

With Gae Bolg and what I consider pretty good gear for DRG with always coming on top on parsers, I rarely ever use Chameleon/Elusive unless A) Tank isn't that good, B) Tank missed Spirit's Within or something like that(which Curtana usually makes that not happen at all)

[Hung]

I see that you use your Chaos Thrust combo before your buff'd Doomspike Combo. Is there a reasoning behind using ur Chaos Thrust combo first? I'm used to putting b4b, blindside and QS on Cooldown as fast as i can so i open up with that combo first. New dragoon here so it's rather confusing.

The reason is because I want to maximize my Keen Flurry Chaos Thrust combo in the least amount of cool down. If you use start out with buff Doomspike, then Chaos Thrust, you would have to wait 30seconds before you can do another Chaos Thrust. Chaos Thrust combo should be close in damage to buff Doomspike. So this way you get 3 strong combos in the least amount of time.

Of course you can use your own pattern, that is just my preference to maximize damage in the least amount of cool down.

[AmyNeudaiz]

Actually he is correct, those "5" seconds over the course of a long fight, there is only 2 atm really though, are pretty precious with just waiting on a AA and throwing weapon right away is around like what, 800-900 tp more ? That's huge in terms of DPS increase.

And if you need to be using Chameleon/Elusive Jump everytime is up, then you should probably look for a better tank most likely.

With Gae Bolg and what I consider pretty good gear for DRG with always coming on top on parsers, I rarely ever use Chameleon/Elusive unless A) Tank isn't that good, B) Tank missed Spirit's Within or something like that(which Curtana usually makes that not happen at all)

Well, seeing as he's asking for advice on short fights (AV/CC), my advice is not off. And given that he's asking for advice on CC/AV I would guess it's not a stretch that his LS isn't at Relics yet so your advice is a little off key there, no offense.

Also,
And I repeat,

most PLD's

Trust me, the amount of people who can hold hate against a capped DRG with a good weapon or even just AF with a Primal weapon is FAR less than the amount who can't. And that's ignoring the fact he's going to be doing a fight where WAR tank is used over PLD, AV, again my advice is on key, you're is a bit off (and again, no offense).
I tend to play with all sorts of skill ranges and it's only when I play with the 5CSR/Garuda tier players do I ever have to not worry about hate on DRG and I can sorta guess that the OP is not of that tier.

[Narctiss]

Just throwing it out there, I'm also going to have to agree with not using Chameleon/Elusive Jump whenever it's up just for the sake of it. With hitting them whenever they're available, you will lose out on what seems like a small bit of dps but could mean the result of a speed run or missing a speed run by a few seconds because you didn't have the tp for a Doomspike, or a Ring of Talons to finish off some adds hitting your mages. (Not necessarily what would happen, just examples).

Plus, Elusive Jump in Chimera room = bad idea with traps. Elusive Jump in Miser room = aim carefully to avoid poison pits and areas slugs are in. Those seconds of not only stopping your dps to hit the ability, but the running back to the boss and repositing afterwards will cost you time, especially if you need to avoid the environment. (although yes, you could position yourself against a rock vs Miser to avoid the jump).

If you're really having hate issues and you don't have a better tank, look at your own gear as well, instead of just blaming the tank or bashing your -enmity abilities. Go and get a double-melded -enmity belt and a Militia Earring. If you're still taking on all the hate with those, take your tank to one side and ask him what's wrong with his hate gain first.

[Eliseus]

Amy amy amy, el oh el. Can you stay on topic and please stop trying to change things around to support your silly arguments. How many people have to come in here and tell you that you are wrong before you just say "ok, I was wrong". I guess we are all bad but you though.

Your advice isn't key, like Malix said, if you have a PLD tank where you need to use cham/elu everytime it is up then you aren't able to do your full damage potential anyways which means you probably aren't winning, so you can stop with your little nonsense posts about tanks.

I do things with tanks all the time and have always done things with what you consider "bad" tanks and don't have to spam cham/elu. I also consider myself a pretty badass dragoon. Your argument about tanks really doesn't make sense. Get better tanks.

And no, I won't trust you.

[Malix]

Well, seeing as he's asking for advice on short fights (AV/CC), my advice is not off. And given that he's asking for advice on CC/AV I would guess it's not a stretch that his LS isn't at Relics yet so your advice is a little off key there, no offense.

Also,
And I repeat,



Trust me, the amount of people who can hold hate against a capped DRG with a good weapon or even just AF with a Primal weapon is FAR less than the amount who can't. And that's ignoring the fact he's going to be doing a fight where WAR tank is used over PLD, AV, again my advice is on key, you're is a bit off (and again, no offense).
I tend to play with all sorts of skill ranges and it's only when I play with the 5CSR/Garuda tier players do I ever have to not worry about hate on DRG and I can sorta guess that the OP is not of that tier.

1.) wait, people use DRG in AV and CC?

2.) The amount of people who do serious endgame is less than the amount of ppl that dont.

[Narctiss]

1.) wait, people use DRG in AV and CC?

CC Chimera melee burn. =3
AV, I haven't seen it done properly.

[Genz]

I do AV/CC speed runs on Drg, without switching job.

[Eliseus]

I do AV/CC speed runs on Drg, without switching job.

Killing miser before she moves? Also, how many DRGs? Only reason I'm asking is because what we noticed on miser fights is if you are killing her before she moves then all the MNKs beat dragoon, making it really ideal to just monk instead of dragoon. Oh ya, doing it in 17min runs too? Also using DRG for the entire AV? Sorry for all the questions, I'm actually really curious by this because I'd love to DRG in AV for our next 17s if its possible to use the entire way.

IDK how CC runs are though I know they are possible everything I ever see looks really sloppy compared to just easy mode blm burn it. I saw some 17s of melee burns, just wonder if it really is ideal vs just doing BLM burn. Probably more fun for sure.