PLD Gear?

[Brannigan]

But on the other hand if he insists on using the DL gauntlets, rather than swapping out his HQ STR rings he could also swap to the Lominsan Officers Gloves which give +50 Acc with Sanction so he'd at least get the better of both worlds.

I forgot about those gloves. Lucky Lominsans and Adders actually got good paladin gear from their company. Still, the Sanction requirement kind of sucks.

[Tango]

The state of the prime healing class is incredibly relevant to how a PLD or any tank should manage his gear sets. WHM is horribly overpowered. A major reason damage mitigation is not really a huge deal on PLD is because a single WHM carries so much healing efficiency and burst healing capability. Because a single WHM can max you out constantly with minimal effort (when played at a reasonable, standard level of skill), it isn't a huge deal if you're taking 800 vs. 1000 damage shots (just need to avoid to getting 1-2 shot). For this reason, you're better off focusing on damage / enmity at this stage of the game given the current endgame content.

This is why I am a strong proponent of ENMITY and DPS gear over dmg mitigation, and as long as you can hold hate 100% I would go full HP gear. Maxing your HP while maintaining the 99.9% accuracy rate (as long as you can keep 100% hate) is the best set no matter the situation. Having a higher HP pool allows you to self heal safely which in turn raises your enmity ceiling. Not to mention the strongest enmity producing skill is HP based.

[Arcell]

As a member of the Maelstrom, what are some worthwhile pieces to get for PLD? I mean I've looked around and have an idea but suggestions would be welcome and help solidify my decisions.

[SwordCoheir]

Well here's some that I use.

Full Time:
Lominsan Officers Overcoat +10 STR, VIT, MND, DEX (Sanction: +70 Defense)
Storm Sergeant's Bracelets Atk. +3 (3 Piece: +7 STR)
Storm Sergeant's Earring Atk. +4 (4 Piece: +7 Crit. Atk.)

As Needed:
Storm Lieutenant's Cutlass DMG: 102, Delay: 2.6, DPS: 39.23, +20 Acc (5 Piece: +30 Atk.)
Lominsan Officers Gloves +100 HP (Sanction: +50 Acc.)
Storm Sergeant's Jackboots +30 Evasion (2 Piece: +10 DEX)

[Arcell]

I was considering the bracelet and earring, are they really worth the loss of enmity from those slots? I mean I guess I could make it up elsewhere, just curious.

I'm assuming the Cutlass and Gloves are listed for their Acc bonuses, correct?

[SwordCoheir]

It's subjective really, they're both a great pieces but if you can't obtain the 3 piece requirement to get the +7 STR on at least the bracelets I would consider otherwise, but then again my setup is more melee oriented.

Yes the gloves and Cutlass are listed mostly due to their accuracy bonuses which is helpful for instances like Garuda when you'll likely need it. Since you'll likely be below the STR cap however, a Giantsgall Longsword melded with STR, MND, or Enmity would probably wield greater benefits and damage potential than the Cutlass.

[kro]

I have to commend you guys for arguing to the point where Kaeko had to come out of hiding to dispel all misinformation.

Bravo, bravo.

[Aceofspades]

Ok, I am the troll I guess. You're the one throwing around the conclusions with nothing to back it up, not even game experience and accomplishments. You didn't even know VIT gives you block power. You don't know how to correctly read the damage parses you record yourself. You didn't even know you could calculate enmity, and you've criticized people for months about having specific figures for provoke and flash. You think Enmity+ benefits a DPS oriented tank more, this is not true, it is a flat percentage boost for all enmity generation, and is equal on every method. That's why we use it, it's universal.




I already showed you a 3/3 Heavy Darklight build with more defense and more vitality than your materia stacked gear. It also has 500 more HP and 200 more enmity. Literally every full HDL paladin can do this. Their "HP/ENMITY built" also just happens to have more DEF and VIT than you too. Why is it not a "HP/ENMITY/DEF/VIT" build? You trash HDL so much, I am starting to become suspicious... Are you racist? Nah, probably not. You just can't get it, and for that, I am truly sorry. I hope when 2.0 comes out I can find you in the cross-server content finder and tank it for you, and help you get tokens. I really do. You can play black mage

If you want to bring up quad meld DEF bodies and shields I'll just tell you to stop because the majority of players in endgame still wouldn't give up HDL for a defense gain on body. It's not possible because of our damage dealers. You are an indignant, poor, fool who has no clue how this game is played. See, we know what the stats do. You don't. I don't post stat formulas because the people I care about already know what they do. Thanks Kaeko!



No, the fact I have 4600 HP means I can do whatever the hell I want and never die. I stand in every single Chimera breath on purpose and heal myself because I can. I thought you'd appreciate this, you seemed so against dodging Coincounter's attacks because you could mitigate them, which by the way is so easy even WAR does it better. Well hey, not only am I mitigating them, I'm healing myself and gaining enmity! You should be worshipping me with your bad logic.

We take one white mage in and he is never close to my enmity, he's mostly a regen bot and esuna bot for when I can't be bothered to move out of Breath of the Dragon, and he nukes ants so my black mages kill Chimera before the ant phase is over. You can't even kill Chimera, much less support the enmity generation to accomplish a 3 minute kill. You just can't do that in your gear.

Remember Ace, I'm only a jerk because you're stupid. You made this happen. It's all your fault. Have a good day!

(PS: I know you don't have a lot of experience with Chimera, so I'll give you a cool hint. Breath of the Dragon is the one that paralyzes you)

Soo you cant win with facts, you revert to trolling , and when that fails to grab positive attention you revert to lies and bashing. If the way I tank bothers you soo much, then dont do it. If my lack of in game acomplishments are enough for you to reguard my posts as useless, then dont read them. The fact you insist on responding to those you dont agree with soo violantly just further proves that you are soo unwilling to be openminded and actualy test the gear yourself , prolly in fear of your Epeen shrinking. It is a FACT, a FACT, stufoo, stacking HDL vs melded hq cobalt DOSE NOT GIVE YOU MORE DEF AND VIT . If you think that DLH is the ends all for tank gear, then GREAT! wear it and have fun. But for those intrested in fruitfull debate, I challange you to ignor the charts and graphs released and test the gear yourself.

Btw the test reguarding enmity , where it can be accurate as far as testing your personal hate pull on a individual mob, it can not be trusted to give 100% conclusive results when you take into consideration the numerous , constantly changing, factors that will ultimatly effect the test . And the reason why the enmity stat is more effect for DPS tanks is because the multiplier is more active with that type of tank , not to mention the enmity bonus already given to plds through mind, those two reasons combined are more then enough to put mind above enmity as a stat to stack for hate controll , for pld.

best advice I can give is to spend less time trying to find ways to trash other posters and actually test the gear, grats on all you speed runs, but in the hay of all that excitement you forgot that if the boss you were fighting was truly a challange you would not be zerging it in 3minutes. I dont boast about a 2minute Coin Counter burn, even tho I hold ample hate to get it done, because my static has done it, nor do i boast about having absoulutely no whm support and tanking ifrit while raising the dead whm and having enough hp left to give that single whm enough time to raise two other people, even tho I have done that too. And yes, even tho I have not beatin Miser yet, I have tanked her down to 10% health, holding hate just fine, and taking damage soo well the whms have little to do but nuke and esuna. Same with Chimera, I do not tank chimera from the front, this greatly reduces the amount of enmity I can pull due to not having fast blade> flat blade at my disposal 100% of the time, but I still manage to pull of holding hate with my best DD scoring 1600+ crits on him. Not having beatin a mob dose not mean my tank is not good enough, there are too many factors involved in that win. You posting lies and boasting claims seems to be like a stretch for you to maintain what little is left of your Epeen. Dont bother responding as I wont bother with you anymore. The dev was right, constructive critism is all this thread needs. You should find your way to the exit, stufoo.

[Stufoo]

You are bad at this game.

Welcome back to the forums though!

[BotenAnna]

you see if you think someone is a troll, you dont go ahead and write 3,000 words responding to the troll. thats called "getting trolled"

this is completely bypassing the part where someone isn't a troll just because they know what they're talking about and you don't