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    Attributes Darklight Heavy Leggs/Feet
    Defense218HP140Vitality12Dexterity12Evasion-20Magic Evasion10Enmity25

    Attributes Darklight Heavy Body/HeadDefense308HP160Vitality20Evasion-20Magic Evasion10Regen5Enmity45

    Attributes Darlight Heavy HandsDefense85HP80Vitality12Mind12Evasion-20Magic Evasion5Enmity45
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    Total Def: 611

    Total Vit: 44
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    + 39 Def for the shield = 650
    + 34 vit for the sword = 78 vit

    With my Current gear, Def is 763 and vit is 375. 814 Def 381 vit with full party and food.

    Conclusion; DLH is overrated for PLD set up. Thats not to say its worthless, But is easly outdone by crafted gear, with the darklight heavy gear, I would recomend a WAR tank, or a PLD built to do dps.

    Also note, with just head and chest peice, where the vit dose suprass that of what i can acumulate on cobalt gear, my def for the two peices combined are 11 def higher then that of DLH, dlh has roughly 13 more vit, i think the trade off speaks for itself.
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    Last edited by Aceofspades; 09-01-2012 at 08:01 PM.

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    Everyone just remember that Aceofspades Aircav has done absolutely zero endgame and is in a linkshell of awful, awful, awful, awful damage dealers (therefore he can not see the necessity of enmity.) He will never do a 17 minute run, or a 25 minute run, and actually hasn't even cleared either dungeon once. He would never hold hate on the relic faction leves as they require high DPS from the damage dealers. The absolute only place that the gear set he posted is anywhere close to optimal is the Monk faction leve, but he doesn't know that because he doesn't play this game in any capacity worth noting.

    He has no point of reference for what is needed to beat content efficiently and vastly overstates the need for survival gear because he sucks at playing paladin/has bad white mages/fights bosses for 15 minutes and wipes out because they have no DPS.

    He honestly believes 11 defense is worth 45 enmity. That is an actual thing he does. He's not even mad that he can't beat the dungeons, and never has a shot at getting HDL. No no, see, we are the retards because we actually use this shit gear. How dare we.

    Btw ace, you have exactly 0 more defense in gear than I do but I have 500 more HP and 200 more enmity. If I dropped down to 350 accuracy like your dumb ass I'd have more vit too, but that is entirely stupid. You are giving up the entire world for nothing because you're senseless.

    Holy Shield: 25
    HDL Body: 308
    Sent Belt: 29
    HDL Legs: 218
    HDL Hands: 85
    Underwear: 14
    Stonewall Ear: 3
    Militia Neck: 12
    Raptorskin Wristband: 13
    Electrum: 1
    Stonewall Ring: 5
    GLA traits: 30
    Base defense: 20

    Total: 763 Defense. Absolutely zero difference in defense (if I used a gimp shield like you I'd have more, btw) but a big difference in how I can function in endgame with competent players. Remember, I can switch to VIT rings. You can't switch to HDL armor.

    e: Total: 313 Vitality. If I equipped rings, +36. If I equipped Giantsgall with 34 instead of Curtana, I would have 383 Vitality, before food.

    Where are your defensive stats now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aceofspades View Post
    Conclusion; DLH is overrated for PLD set up.
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    LOL , coming from a person who perfers DLH armor?
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    I would LOVE to see your HP/ENMITY built take the damage I take
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    soo are you just trolling at this point? If you go with DLH armor, you dont get to stack ANYTHING
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    and to adress the whole "my dark light has more stats" comment, this is further proof you are delusional, no one wears it because the stats dont help nearly as much as what can be stacked with materia.

    This is just hilarious bitter sweet irony. Please enjoy it with me Ace.
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    Last edited by Stufoo; 09-02-2012 at 06:21 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aceofspades View Post
    I've never cleared a dungeon nor killed anything past Garuda. Don't take gear advice from me!
    Did you just recommend HDL for a paladin damage setup? I mean for a real paladin damage setup you'd probably want something like Darklight Cuirass, Mind helmet, Str gauntlets, Str/Vit pants (or militia if available), Darklight Sollerets. The only reason HDL kind of sucks sometimes is specifically because it gives you nothing for damage stats outside of mind on gloves.

    Wow this thread is garbage. I hope you at least got something out of it though, OP. Really the BIGGEST thing you need to upgrade is Ifrit's Blade. Get Mogblade or Giantsgall + acc ASAP. Also drop Gallant Cuisses for any felt trousers (even a single meld of HP or str/vit). Toss the shield for a melded kite. Stonewall ring ain't great (keep it around but wear acc instead for most stuff). Keep a bunch of different gear around for different situations.

    Enmity for any fight where flash/provoke/healing make up a significant portion of your hate.
    Str/Mnd for solo, low man, and low defense monsters
    mega vit/defense for ruining threads and wiping to easy dungeon bosses
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aceofspades View Post
    Also note, with just head and chest peice, where the vit dose suprass that of what i can acumulate on cobalt gear, my def for the two peices combined are 11 def higher then that of DLH, dlh has roughly 13 more vit, i think the trade off speaks for itself.
    Thats the thing though, you are favouring 11 more defense over 13 extra vit, 45 emnity, 34 hp, regen +5. That's a huge sacrifice and a bad suggestion as a tank to say that your 11 defense is better than all those stats.

    The only issue I have with body piece is the loss of 32 mind, but that can still be made up with mind rings.
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    Last edited by Daniel_Fury; 09-02-2012 at 06:50 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel_Fury View Post
    Thats the thing though, you are favouring 11 more defense over 13 extra vit, 45 emnity, 34 hp, regen +5. That's a huge sacrifice and a bad suggestion as a tank to say that your 11 defense is better than all those stats.

    The only issue I have with body piece is the loss of 32 mind, but that can still be made up with mind rings.
    45 enmity is nice, but like you say you lose mind, mind is more valuable (imo) as a pld,

    11 def is more valuable then 13 vit.

    34 hp is a joke

    +5 regen can be made up with higher vit numbers, wich I understand is contradictory to what I just stated but thats because I dont use mind/acc/str rings, I use HQ vit rings, wich more then makes up for the lack of vit on the gear and further increases strength of self buffs and damage mitigation. Not sure how conclusive this is, as I have just hear of it, but some are saying it effects block power, wich is huge in my book. Overall , Crafted materiaed gear is more valuable, at least in this case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aceofspades View Post
    45 enmity is nice, but like you say you lose mind, mind is more valuable (imo) as a pld,

    11 def is more valuable then 13 vit.

    34 hp is a joke

    +5 regen can be made up with higher vit numbers, wich I understand is contradictory to what I just stated but thats because I dont use mind/acc/str rings, I use HQ vit rings, wich more then makes up for the lack of vit on the gear and further increases strength of self buffs and damage mitigation. Not sure how conclusive this is, as I have just hear of it, but some are saying it effects block power, wich is huge in my book. Overall , Crafted materiaed gear is more valuable, at least in this case.
    You're right, 10 vit = 1% dmg mitigated from a shield block. If you take 1000 damage, you reduce your damage by 10 damage. So your +1 vit rings = 36 vit = 3.6% dmg mitigation.

    So when it comes to comparing, your 11 defense vs 45 emnity 34 hp +5 regen per tick and 13 vit, you can lose 32 mind but as I said it can be made up with rings.

    I wont laugh at your set and say it's useless because it is not, what I'm trying to say is, that all these items that take a long time to gain, stacked together are worth the trouble because together they cover alot more areas of hate, accuracy and damage mitigation, mp managment and damage in one go as opposed to just stacking damage mitigation. They have similar damage mitigation BUT you get all those bonuses on top.
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    Last edited by Daniel_Fury; 09-03-2012 at 08:01 PM.