PLD Gear?

[Stufoo]

Is the Militia Choker really that damn good.....?

It is a good piece. I'm sorry if you can't afford or justify the cost, but that's okay.

Just because the gorget increases your attack by 30 (+6%) it doesn't mean it's increasing your damage by 6%. It will be more or usually, a lot less than that depending on the monster. However, the choker has 5 accuracy and always provides 3% enmity to everything, damage, abilities, and heals, not just damage.

[GreyJorildyn]

In fights where your enmity cannot come from damage and a few other small situations, the militia choker is the superior choice.

[Aceofspades]

@Flamers:

Musta struck a nerve ;D , did I just make a statement , claiming that all your hard work and countles hours farming DLH armor was all for not? A wise man once said , "the truth will set you free, but first its gona piss you off" , actually not sure if who said that, but its quite fitting tonite . Blah blah blah, "you lose enmity" , you might match my def, just barely, but your vit number are probably way off, and mind is probably lower as well. Everyone seems to want to seperate the two stats, but if we are talking from a strickly unbiased, and fully tested aspect, then vit gose hand in hand with def. Only thing I can sugest is test it. Dont hate the mesanger.

Now to adress some comments I find less troll and more rational concern.

1) Reason I sugest this high enmity DLH build for DD driven tanks. Because DPS benfits more from "enmity" then actions like "voke" "rampart" "flash" and even flat blade combo. Again, only thing Im gona sugest is test it. See wich helps you more, "enmity" or "mind". Now thats not to say I dont stack enmity where I can, when i score a malitia's chocker, I will be close to 100 enmity without once sacrificing vit or def. As far as the relic gear gose. I wont discredit relic anymore then I can, I dont have it thus I cant test it. There are traits on that gear you cant get anywhere else, soo that being said, I cant say conclusively anything about it.

2) Those who assume I am losing vit or def stats have obviously ignored the fact that I regain those stats from materia stacking, hense why my vit and def number are both realy high. I wish I could get mind higher but forgive me If I havent reached gil cap yet, yeah I know "filthy casual" right? One thing at a time, and it takes time to build gear sets, especially if one dosent have limitless free time.

3) , for those elitest out there who put themselve ten tiers above the rest because of their delusional idea that they are better because they have more time to spend on the game, well, for those guys, nothing serves better to explain how I feel , then simply saying, kiss my ass lol.. In what universe dose, more free time to play a video game = better at said video game? Sorry if being incapable of spaming content to death dosent put me in the upper levels of players , but with two kids, job and a wife, game kinda takes a back seat lol. Im not gona justify my lack of "acomplishments" in the game to a bunch of people who still cant figure out why on earth a normal human being dosent spend half his life behind a computer, to that end, get a life lol.

I posted My stats compaired to that of a DLH set because it was assumed I was missing somthing vital... other then enmity, these is nothing I am missing out on, and its my opinion that enmity + on pld is not a "vital" stat. I know, god forbid somone dosent fall in line with your elitest ideals, "off with his head!" bunch of morons, after all the parseing and testing I have done you honestly think simple trolling and flaming is gona change my veiws? I have been tanking this game since yoshi took over. Have tested, and continue to test stats, and my personal results conclude that def is in fact not broken in anyway. Vit dose help with damge mitigation and they both effect eachother. Mind is a strong and in my opinion the strongest enmity stat for PLD, block is as important as block rate and both in high numbers can reduce damage an aditional 50% . Where enmity and dps helps, its not a main stay thus not a priority in my book. These are all MY conclusions and have worked for me for a long time. Enjoy your DLH gear, I am certainly going to enjoy taking less damage then the flamers who stack dlh and holding hate just fine , enjoy the rest of your day. Flame on.


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[Stufoo]

I regain those stats from materia stacking, hense why my vit and def number are both realy high.

That's the thing. They aren't high. They are the bare standard, normal. Every single full HDL paladin out there has 760+ defense. You worked really "hard" on those melds to catch up to the defense that Heavy Darklight gives naturally. That's it. And that's all you caught up to. We still get the HP and Enmity from it and are leaps and bounds ahead of your gearset in the application into viable endgame.

You aren't special. You aren't a high defense and VIT tank. High VIT is not needed, accuracy is more important and that's where you are making that tradeoff, not in armor but in accessories and weapon.

Can you please post a screenshot of your linkshell's DDs and White Mages? That's way more interesting than your defense and vit which everyone else has.

[Molly_Millions]

Can you please post a screenshot of your linkshell's DDs and White Mages? That's way more interesting than your defense and vit which everyone else has.

We're in the PLD forum, not the white mage forum.

STOP POSTING.

[Stufoo]

We're in the PLD forum, not the white mage forum.

STOP POSTING.

I thought you blocked me for being an asshat? Or a douchebag. Something.

Oh you were just being a forum attention whore crybaby.

You suck and are dumb.

By stacking VIT you can make up for this with magical defense and enhancing magic potency..

By stacking VIT you are making up for it in sheer block power. They added that a patch or two ago, you know. When they fixed blocking.

20 VIT vs. 20 DEF difference is 7 defense. 20 VIT is 10 block power, which is a further 2% off blocks not affected by dLVL. Only the floor in that calculation is. 7 defense really doesn't make up for that, especially considering the other benefits of VIT.

[Molly_Millions]

I thought you blocked me for being an asshat? Or a douchebag. Something.

Oh you were just being a forum attention whore crybaby.

You suck and are dumb.

oh, I see, you can't handle it when the tables are turned. Jackass. Do like your namesake and STFU.

[Brannigan]

Are you dyslexic? Serious question.

Also, to clarify some things and hopefully avoid more essays from you:

I don't think many people are saying the vitality or defense are broken or worthless. They clearly do mitigate damage. The problem with your view is that you absolutely do not need anywhere near 370 vitality for anything in the game, and you do sacrifice a lot of strength, HP, enmity, and accuracy to get there. One white mage is more than enough to keep me up on both Ifrit Extreme and Nael Deus Darnus. Taking 10 or even 20 percent less damage won't allow me to drop that white mage. It won't even allow the white mage to really focus on nuking more.

Dropping some vitality and defense for strength/enmity/accuracy will allow your damage dealers to push harder and start fights earlier. It will let your white mage go nuts on healing the rest of the party without having to worry. Accuracy will make your hate consistent, so you don't have to say "Sorry guys, missed the phalanx lol."

Finally, congratulations on reproducing. I know a married couple who used to play this game (before Diablo 3 killed their linkshell), and they managed to beat both dungeon speed runs and Garuda while also taking care of their kids and working. Also, they could write clearly.

I didn't mean to imply that your lack of Heavy Darklight armor makes you a bad source of advice. I meant to imply that your complete lack of experience makes you a bad source of advice.

[GreyJorildyn]

Every thread he posts in is just an endless well of merriment and facepalm. I swear I've already said all the the things that have been posted by others, just differently but with the same message. Seems like a lost cause at this point.

[Aceofspades]

Why would you set yourself up for failer?

Soo you say if I complete these pre reqs in your mind to make any adivice I have , lagit, then you will be forced to accept them as such? There is nothing wrong with having standards, but if your going to rage soo hard against somones ideals, you should probably set the standard in wich you can accept said ideals, a bit higher.
Realy? Speed runs and Darnus?

Ok , if YOU say it must be so, then it MUST be so , right? I will get the achivements im my own good time, and I will do it with my current gear set. Great examples for the new tanks in the game btw " you gota have this gear or your a shit tank" get over yourselves.

And I will go even further by saying this, to all new tanks to the game,

Enmity should not be on the top of your priority list, imo. There is one sure thing that defines a tank from anyone else in the party, and its not pulling hate. Tanks were dubed , "tanks", for a reason, they are designed and intended to mitigate damage in such ways no one else in the party can. Holding hate is equally important of an aspect , but between holding hate and mitigating damage, only one of those two aspects can your party support you in. Healers ensure your HP dosent bottom out and can buff you to complement your damage mitigation but ultimatly its the damage you mitigate that defines you as a TANK. If enmity was the only real concern here then MNK tanks would be huge right now.

Stay alive and Keep hate, both rely on eachother to be valid. The party can only help you with one of those.