Phantom Philleter - FFXIV GAME DESIGN PROBLEMS

[FateHollow]

The Phantom Philleter is a culinarian off hand reward for doing OC North plus the long grind quest of the Phantom Relic. This type of combo forcing crafters to do battle content is everything that is wrong with the FFXIV reward structure. It is a way to force players into content they don't want to do. OC S was laughably unpopular within a few weeks and North hasn't been received too well either. The fact that these devs have to artificially inflate the player interaction by requiring more players (crafter mains) to do unpopular battle content on top of an already tedious phantom relic grind is baffling when it comes to the games design. Think about it like this: should battle content lovers be forced to do crafting to get their relics? No. That's ridiculous and uncalled for and makes zero sense for them to do so. Now, now folks this isn't just a glamour either this is the FIRST glamour of its type to exist other than a mog station knife glamour. The fact it's the first one and tied to battle content when it should ONLY be tied to crafting relics is a travesty and a major example at the devs being terrible at reward structures.

Edit: The Phantom Philleter is a purple quality item. It may be an offhand glamour but the game and accompanying websites list it as a RELIC offhand for culinarian.
Edit 2: I have no issue with doing the content but a crafters "weapon" is both the main hand and off hand. Only having the main hand is essentially like having half a relic. The devs shoving a never before seen type of Relic/Shiny glam behind combat quest/achievements is an improper way to introduce this as ALL jobs earn their relics through their respective questlines.

[Len_]

You're right they should just make rewards based on a checkbox of whether you personally want it or not and then just give it to you. THAT'S what I call game design.

[DiaDeem]

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[VeyaAkemi]

It's a nifty little bonus at the end of a quest line, giving us a prop that was used in said quest line as a bonus, that's it, there is nothing stopping you from doing the relic, grinding to KL40, and doing the one run of FTM that is required for this item.

This kind of shit is why we can't get anything cool, my god...

[FateHollow]

Yall are backwards. Crafting stuff should not mix with battle stuff. You are also forgetting that its literally THE FIRST GLOWY OFF HAND to exist in the ENTIRE GAME. There is NO excuse for it to be tied to battle content. Also I demand the battle relics ONLY be obtainable through lengthy crafting zones from now on. At least be equal with your terrible double standards.

[VeyaAkemi]

Also I demand the battle relics ONLY be obtainable through lengthy crafting zones from now on.

1. This is not a relic.

2. The current battle relic already involves crafting aspects, all of which required very high crafting stats and timed node materials at the time of release.

3. I'd be perfectly fine with crafting zones giving a few cool VFX weapon glams, actually, in fact that sounds like a great idea.

[Len_]

Yall are backwards. Crafting stuff should not mix with battle stuff. You are also forgetting that its literally THE FIRST GLOWY OFF HAND to exist in the ENTIRE GAME. There is NO excuse for it to be tied to battle content. Also I demand the battle relics ONLY be obtainable through lengthy crafting zones from now on. At least be equal with your terrible double standards.

This game, as basic as it is, is one of the only MMOs that enables and encourages EASILY doing ALL it has to offer one one character. The fact that you're even using the term "crafter main" about this game in 2026 is already something that no one can relate to. What you're saying is so absurd I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt by saying you're a troll.

[FateHollow]

This game, as basic as it is, is one of the only MMOs that enables and encourages EASILY doing ALL it has to offer one one character. The fact that you're even using the term "crafter main" about this game in 2026 is already something that no one can relate to. What you're saying is so absurd I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt by saying you're a troll.

Sorry bud. "You don't pay my sub." You also don't get to pick and choose how others play the game. BTW BRING ON THE BATTLE RELICS ONLY BEING OBTAINABLE THROUGH CRAFTING. LETS GO SE!!!

[Len_]

Sorry bud. "You don't pay my sub." You also don't get to pick and choose how others play the game. BTW BRING ON THE BATTLE RELICS ONLY BEING OBTAINABLE THROUGH CRAFTING. LETS GO SE!!!

like I said

[FateHollow]

like I said

I'm glad you can't argue any valid points other than "PEOPLE CAN LIKE TOTALLY DO ALL THE THINGS." fascinating. Players do what they want or feel like doing, duh. Forcing them to do content that is completely unrelated and also the first item of its type to exist makes ZERO sense. This item should exist in its own type of content first before given out as a reward for doing battle content.
Praying for SE to include the battle relics as crafts in EC!