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  1. #1
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    Jangles's Avatar
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    Jen Ajello
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    Siren
    Main Class
    Botanist Lv 100

    Please just bring back Ten Chi Jin forcing you to stand still.

    I've been falling out of love with this game and every patch I try to come back and I just get tired of it in a week or so and don't sub until the next patch. I thought for sure I just didn't like the content but it finally hit me after all this time. Removing that last crumb of friction from my main job's kit sucked a whole lot of fun out of it, there isn't anything I have to consider in my rotation anymore and fights don't feel engaging because of it no matter how many AoEs they throw at me, I can just slip slide around without a care. At first it didn't feel like too big of a deal but the more time I spend with this version of TCJ the worse it feels.

    Occult crescent does majorly suck though and north horn is insanely boring with how little mechanics each fight has and how little the mechanics escalate AND how unengaging they all are, you see every move within the first 30-60 seconds and then it's looping 2-3 mechanics until the end.

    I know we are getting evolved jobs and if TCJ is kept in the kit it should force you to stand still then too. Nevertheless the restriction should be brought back for "reborn" mode.
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    Player EdenElsewhere's Avatar
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    Eden Elsewhere
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    Malboro
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    Scholar Lv 100
    I don't think it's going to be brought back. Ninja already has enough "friction" in it's kit with how mudras work with ping. I think abother thing is that at least spellcasters have a chance to slidecast. it doesn't make sense the most mobile class in the entire game has to stand still.

    Also from the sound of things, fight design is likely going to be more varied now, which may or may not lead to design with more movement. After all WHM's attack spells were instant.
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  3. #3
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    Kelg Granthal
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    Sargatanas
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    Ninja Lv 100
    lol no. I main Ninja and that was actually a good change. wdym ninja has no friction? You can fatfinger kassatsu during a mudra cast and lose 4000 potency instantly. Ninja would be in such a terrible place in any fight where you have to move during the 2 min that it would either need huge damage buffs or it would be bottom tier due to how movement heavy the dawntrail raids are.
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  4. #4
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    Aelin Ashriver
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    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 100
    No ty ~ 10 char
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  5. #5
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    Jeanne D'altaer
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    Brynhildr
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Nothing is stopping you from simply not pressing any of your movement buttons during TCJ....
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  6. #6
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    Saika Kinoshita
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    Mateus
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    Rogue Lv 53
    i still advocate for the "ley lines" puddle personally. enough to forgive any twitch movements, but still enough that you get punished for committing to a bad spot. the devs just cutting the movement penalty entirely was just them taking the laziest option possible though. pretty typical.
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  7. #7
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    Buzam Aidorouge
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 100
    I'm happier without it, and it never made any sense for Ninja to have a skill that made them stand absolutely still when they're SUPPOSED to be mobile. The fact that Dawntrail became obsessed with "stand still/move too late and you die" mechanics made the change not only welcomed, but necessary.

    It would be a different story if Ninja was a proper stealth job that needed to hold still for a moment to set up ambushes and the like before and during combat, but I forget that the job is even capable of going invisible because you literally never use it for anything but a couple of Rogue quests, and its useless otherwise. (Hell GATHERING JOBS have a better stealth mechanic with a practical use.)
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  8. #8
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    Reginald Cain
    World
    Exodus
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    Machinist Lv 100
    I think tcj letting you move is far from the worst change ninja has gotten. The job losing huton for the weird kunai gauge is still odd to me. I also miss the gcd dot it lost. I also was one of the people who liked forked into fleeting raiju combo.
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    I'm like crit melds fine, I wonder when they'll be me mine! penta meld then i hit rewind, to watch it slot one more time and I got thit SODA!

    -Reginald Pain #1 on the fa mic, blessed with Hydaelyns might, I'll kill ya on sight... *POW*

  9. #9
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    isnt it messed up that goblet is a housing area and not a tiny goblin
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    Dusk Himmel
    World
    Ravana
    Main Class
    Viper Lv 100
    TCJ lock removal wouldn't be top 10 worst things that's happened to NIN tbh
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  10. #10
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    Knives Jonquil
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Rogue Lv 100
    Ten Chi Jin is way better now than it ever was. I'm critical of many gameplay changes made in the past, but this has been a net boon.

    I'm more concerned about evolved mode and how it will change Ninja. Given Mr. Prime's history with Ninja and other jobs, I am optimistic.
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