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  1. #11
    Player HiirNoivl's Avatar
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    Hiir Noivl
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    Mateus
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Ramesses View Post
    Yep, Crimzon just said it... this is entirely false; and I have screenies to prove it. The drop rate on seals now is beyond logical comprehension.

    Matter of fact, (and info is for the OP)...when I have a moment, I will look on my external hard drive for pics where 1st and 3rd provisioner were in party (heck, there were times when even three of the top 10 were in PT)... and we didn't get nada but armet four times in a row...(surprise surprise)

    Due to my usual log in times at wee hours of the night, I also do Hamlet with several of my Japanese friends, so you must keep in mind that this ridiculous drop rate is a "global" thing. For now, to buttress my point here's one of the screenshots, showing #3 provisioner in PT...



    And a pic of our average score (usually between 68k to 69k)...



    The result? An avalanche of nothing but armet and perhaps a pair of duckbills here or there. Matter of fact, this re-occurance of having top provisioners within excellent runs but hardly ANY seals actually seems to have become much worse in the past few weeks... which is also why I have personally given up trying to attempt relics until 2.0.

    YES! you know, I think this is actually a bug and should be reported. I've gotten many 67k + runs in a row where nothing dropped but the default hat. And then I do another run of 50k-64k runs and get tons of seals.
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  2. #12
    Player Shosasosa's Avatar
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    Shosa Sosa
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    Excalibur
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    3 out of the 4 gathering hats that i have seen dropped were dropped on 50k runs. people have said that 70k runs do not drop the 100% hat so they might have a separate loot pool
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    Ramesses's Avatar
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    Prince Nuada
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    Diabolos
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    Reaper Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by HiirNoivl View Post
    YES! you know, I think this is actually a bug and should be reported. I've gotten many 67k + runs in a row where nothing dropped but the default hat. And then I do another run of 50k-64k runs and get tons of seals.
    Nod nod... I've had that a couple times as well whereby we get 50k+ (sometimes because someone DC-ed), with no provisioner in PT and a seal would drop. We'd all be like... "Huh?!!!"

    Dunno anymore... like I said, in my personal experience Hamlet drop rates now defies all logical comprehension and reasoning. I'm done trying to figure it out.
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    "After ten years, finally headed to Sharlayan... absolutely stoked"


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    Bebekurenai's Avatar
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    Maya Sop
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    Ragnarok
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by HiirNoivl View Post
    Having a provisioner in your party gives youa boost in points and allows for tradebale Crafting or Gathering drops to come from the NPC at the end to the provisioner. There is a chance that an untradeable Gathering hat may drop into the party loot.
    Quote Originally Posted by Shosasosa View Post
    3 out of the 4 gathering hats that i have seen dropped were dropped on 50k runs. people have said that 70k runs do not drop the 100% hat so they might have a separate loot pool

    Does this mean, hats will only drop when a provisioner is present? We have done so far 150-170 hamlets, and maybe half of them when not more, with provisioner, always over the 60k mark with ot without prov. Not a single gathering hat has been seen yet. Any particular condition to make it drop?
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    Eliseus Kayne
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    Hyperion
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Magnesium02 View Post
    Here is an image I made for my LS



    The first box is correct, but I am not 100% sure about the drops for the off hand tools and accessories. I don't know if they are set to only one location per item as I have only provisioned once or twice and gotten 2 items for it. Someone told me that the off hand tools drop from the hamlet in the contry of that craft/gather classes guild. And the 2 wrists can ceom from all of them.

    As for the main lot of items, there are no triggering factors apart from getting more than 50k and 60K scores (60K has better drop rate). And the ordinary head drop 100%
    You can get all the militia tools/wrists from any of the hamlets being top 20
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    Duuude Bismarck
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    Hyperion
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    Armorer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Eliseus View Post
    You can get all the militia tools/wrists from any of the hamlets being top 20
    wristlets and bracelets yes. everything else is hamlet specific:
    hyrstmill: sledgehammer/culinary knife/mortar
    golden bazaar: scythe/spinningwheel/grindingwheel/awl
    aleport: gig/file/pliers/claw hammer
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  7. #17
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    UmJammerSully's Avatar
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    Bam Sully
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Does anyone know if it's still possible to get a seal from Top 3 is the Hamlet is in Grade 1? Not enough people handed in but I made it to the #2 spot. :/
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    Duuude Bismarck
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    Quote Originally Posted by UmJammerSully View Post
    Does anyone know if it's still possible to get a seal from Top 3 is the Hamlet is in Grade 1? Not enough people handed in but I made it to the #2 spot. :/
    yes. it is.
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    Bobbin Threadbare
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    Seal and hat also dropped on 40k. At least happened twice on my watch. Gonna screencaps next time if I got this again.
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    Ebi Frye
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    Ragnarok
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    Fisher Lv 80
    I've seen an Inferno Seal drop with 57k points and 6th provisioner this very week.
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