SP loss end of story.

[PandaTaru]

yes--- sorry for breaking your "I posted a thread, I'm special", there's a thread that's active in which people are already debating the exact same matter. Do we need more like this? somebody else will do the same because he has his own idea that differ a bit from yours and post his.. and another will...

[Kaedan]

Don't bother adding a dev tag, it's double thread. it has been answered in another thread that there will not be any SP loss.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...0222#post60222

Apparently you didn't read that thread.

That was a proposed idea... and all they said is there is not a current plan to have SP/XP loss. So perhaps if someone were to come up with, oh say... a compromise that punishes but doesn't do so too harshly, they will consider it. >.>

[Grimm]

yes--- sorry for breaking your "I posted a thread, I'm special", there's a thread that's active in which people are already debating the exact same matter. Do we need more like this? somebody else will do the same because he has his own idea that differ a bit from yours and post his.. and another will...

That is the point of a forum. Nothing special about it anyone and everyone can do it. Stay on topic please.

[PandaTaru]

I read it, I thought he was talking to the op who's just debating this matter and not giving any input/ideas at all.

That is the point of a forum. Nothing special about it anyone and everyone can do it. Stay on topic please.

There's a thread about it already, why spread more and eventually spam a whole thread listing page for the same matter. there are 3 now. God bless spam.

[Fieros]

•Not currently planning on having a loss of SP/XP at this point in time

Please discuss the above points and any comments such as the below would be really helpful:

•[SIZE="5"]This penalty is weak![/SIZE]
•This is perfect!
•[SIZE="5"]Do something else![/SIZE]

Yes to SP/XP loss. Yoshi-P propsed penalty is weak! Do something else! (SP/XP loss)

[Shaone]

If it did not bother you in XI it won't bother you here. so you don't care either way?

I'm saying it won't alter my behaviour. It won't stop me attempting challenging things at the edge of my ability, or low manning things intended for larger groups of players.

But I would rather not be forced to constantly go back and work on my buffer. I can think of better ways to spend my time.

[vax]

If SE says something about sp loss after death, more people that want the sp lost will complains on forums.

Anyways, if repair system is erased from the game i'll want a sp loss.

[PandaTaru]

I'm saying it won't alter my behaviour. It won't stop me attempting challenging things at the edge of my ability, or low manning things intended for larger groups of players.

But I would rather not be forced to constantly go back and work on my buffer. I can think of better ways to spend my time.

agreed. there are better things to do than just adding another time sink to a game that has already quite a few. After all SP/EXP loss is just a TIME SINK, not something to make things "feels" more real or whatever people fantasies about.

Or they should add char decapitation like when you get hurt by a mob on your arm or legs, you lose them at some point, literally. lose weapon, and gear too damaged to get fixed so you have to buy a new one. Want hardcore? I got plenty like this.


And if you really want hardcore, just go outside and get smashed by a bus see how it feels.

[trinta]

I'm saying it won't alter my behaviour. It won't stop me attempting challenging things at the edge of my ability, or low manning things intended for larger groups of players.

But I would rather not be forced to constantly go back and work on my buffer. I can think of better ways to spend my time.

Same here. Exp loss in XI was an annoyance, and nothing more. Annoyance is not the same as challenge, and putting up with annoyance does not make me awesome.

[Grimm]

Another way to combat death is make it pointless. instead of monsters slowly healing when you die, make them heal fully with one tic so even if you die you have to start the fight over rather than staying back till weaken is off then finishing it when it hasn't fully healed yet.