Feedback: Please Improve Blacklist

[LittleArrow]

The blacklist feature in game is really useful with the addition of pulling out characters from view. However, the small number 200 (I know it sounds like a lot, but in a game with 100s of thousands of players, that's a drop in the bucket) as well as being forced in duty via roulette - there are major oversights regarding this feature.

With the announcement that the roulette pool will be region wide instead of data center, there's no excuse here to continue to cripple the blacklist feature in preventing players from grouping up with those on their blacklist. There will be such a large player pool that having numerous players on blacklist shouldn't hurt match making. An alternative to this would be a priority based system so if one player is being targeted (still don't see how this could hurt with around 300,000+ players in NA region alone) they could still get into the roulette. The priority system would work - if possible, place player in a party without blacklisted player, after a period of time or if no parties meet requirements - place player in party with blacklisted player as it is now. You could put a preference checkbox in the duty finder same as join party in progress.

Request:
1. Prevent duty matchmaking with players on blacklist or introduce a priority system.
2. Increase the number of allotted slots for blacklist from 200 - a greater number (1000 might be a good start, and hopefully no one would cap that)
3. REMOVE player from friend list of blacklisted player.
4. Account wide sync'd blacklist.

Socially, we can argue and debate all day whether or not maxing out 200 slots or requiring these features is necessary - that's not the point. The point is to have this option if a player chooses. As it is now, forcing players into parties with a blacklisted player and the small number compared to the large player pool for dailies / roulettes is very dated and should be changed especially after over a decade for some of us.

[Nero-Voidstails]

well if you cue with those people they appear as a default character with question mark and see nothing they send

[MisterNublet]

I might actually start doing roulettes again if I can avoid getting grouped up with pacifist healers and auto-attack dps players. Or the 0 kills 10 deaths, exp leechers in frontlines.

Going to need a much bigger blacklist capacity though.

[Alicie]

1. Prevent duty matchmaking with players on blacklist or introduce a priority system.
2. Increase the number of allotted slots for blacklist from 200 - a greater number (1000 might be a good start, and hopefully no one would cap that)

Not a single chance.
They so much didn't want to put more processing on the server, they didn't bother to implement account-wide blacklist server side.
Given that both requested features would increase amount of data server stores and amount of code it processes, there's no hope on that at all.

[Nero-Voidstails]

I might actually start doing roulettes again if I can avoid getting grouped up with pacifist healers and auto-attack dps players. Or the 0 kills 10 deaths, exp leechers in frontlines.

Going to need a much bigger blacklist capacity though.

I do think for the first part you might be a part of the problem but for frontline it also depend on what people play. I have like 1 or 2 kills per frontline but I have like 80 assist x) but I play scholar so my DPS is far to be great

[tsuchii]

Just commenting on the blacklist slots - If you need 1000 people in your blacklist, don't you need to reflect and think who might be the problem?

200 is fine. I've been playing for 5 years and my blacklist has 2 gameplay griefers. TWO. In my entire time. 200 is excessive imo.

[tsuchii]

I am guessing that the reason Square allows matching with blacklisted players is that:

1. They will be incapable of communicating with you. Chat blocking still applies inside duties. Correct me if I'm wrong.
2. They can grief you in the duty but it is reportable. Report it and go on with your day. They WILL be apprehended. Square takes gameplay disruption reports seriously. So you don't have to worry.

[Aidorouge]

I am guessing that the reason Square allows matching with blacklisted players is that:

1. They will be incapable of communicating with you. Chat blocking still applies inside duties. Correct me if I'm wrong.
2. They can grief you in the duty but it is reportable. Report it and go on with your day. They WILL be apprehended. Square takes gameplay disruption reports seriously. So you don't have to worry.

I figure the main reason is that, if they allowed people to block others from queuing it could be abused to effectively ban somebody from all group content. The current blacklist already prevents somebody from seeing your party finder listing/stops you from seeing theirs, but this would be extending it to the duty finder as well, which already struggles at times to find enough people to fill some content.

Keep in mind that the game has to take EVERYONE's blacklist into account at all times, cross-referencing everyone in the queue, to make sure everyone going in hasn't blocked anyone else. Say I block...

LittleArrow
Nero-Voidstails
MisterNublet
Alicie
tsuchii

...That's five people that have to wait up for the next queue because the game took my black list into account. Then lets say you five also blocked five different people. That's another 25 made to sit in the queue because the game won't let them in if you got in line first. Now if those 25 also blocked 5... it just keeps compounding from there. Trying to get an alliance raid roulette ALONE to pop could take 30+ minutes even on a populated data center/cross data-center queue because the game has to go through 24 different blacklists to make sure none of those people have blocked each other. That's up to potentially 4,800-24,000 other players not being allowed to queue up together depending on how many people are being blocked/how big the blacklist gets.

It's one thing to have some player playing or acting poorly and they drag down a run, it's another to give players the power to bring duty finder to an absolute standstill because literally nobody gets along.

[Alicie]

I figure the main reason is that, if they allowed people to block others from queuing it could be abused to effectively ban somebody from all group content. The current blacklist already prevents somebody from seeing your party finder listing/stops you from seeing theirs, but this would be extending it to the duty finder as well, which already struggles at times to find enough people to fill some content.

Keep in mind that the game has to take EVERYONE's blacklist into account at all times, cross-referencing everyone in the queue, to make sure everyone going in hasn't blocked anyone else. Say I block...

LittleArrow
Nero-Voidstails
MisterNublet
Alicie
tsuchii

...That's five people that have to wait up for the next queue because the game took my black list into account. Then lets say you five also blocked five different people. That's another 25 made to sit in the queue because the game won't let them in if you got in line first. Now if those 25 also blocked 5... it just keeps compounding from there. Trying to get an alliance raid roulette ALONE to pop could take 30+ minutes even on a populated data center/cross data-center queue because the game has to go through 24 different blacklists to make sure none of those people have blocked each other. That's up to potentially 4,800-24,000 other players not being allowed to queue up together depending on how many people are being blocked/how big the blacklist gets.

It's one thing to have some player playing or acting poorly and they drag down a run, it's another to give players the power to bring duty finder to an absolute standstill because literally nobody gets along.

Other games do it and they're being completely fine, SE just won't do it cause it's effort that will likely not produce extra income which is forbidden.

[JerryBerrry]

Just commenting on the blacklist slots - If you need 1000 people in your blacklist, don't you need to reflect and think who might be the problem?

200 is fine. I've been playing for 5 years and my blacklist has 2 gameplay griefers. TWO. In my entire time. 200 is excessive imo.

I bet I have plenty of players blacklist me, simply because I said I didn’t like Wuk Lumar, despite me giving a good, legitimate reasons why.