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    AlexNiculaie's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sounsyy View Post
    Have race-based stat differences and then have point allotments. You have the option of boosting stats you already excel in or need for your job, or you can choose to boost the deficiencies based on race. Point allotments are per job, so you'd only really be missing those few points of whatever you're missing for one job maybe two. And you can add point allotments to make up for it.
    Problem is, this isn't a game where people play one job, or even one type of job. When you advertise being able to excel at all jobs you want to try, it isn't a good mechanic to not allow that. Stat bonuses just ensure that one race will excel at certain things, and no-one else can ever match them.

    Some may try to claim that equipment makes up for such, but it doesn't. All that the bonus bearing race has to do is get the same boosted equipment and they yet again exceed all others. All the equipment and freebie points in the world won't change that, because stat bonuses are by their nature an imbalance.

    If bonus just have to be implemented, it should be in a manner that everyone benefits in the same way, but at different times. For example, one race get's a 3% xp boost at night for x amount of time, while another would get it during the day.
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    Setzer Gabbiani
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexNiculaie View Post
    Problem is, this isn't a game where people play one job, or even one type of job. When you advertise being able to excel at all jobs you want to try, it isn't a good mechanic to not allow that. Stat bonuses just ensure that one race will excel at certain things, and no-one else can ever match them.

    Some may try to claim that equipment makes up for such, but it doesn't. All that the bonus bearing race has to do is get the same boosted equipment and they yet again exceed all others. All the equipment and freebie points in the world won't change that, because stat bonuses are by their nature an imbalance.

    If bonus just have to be implemented, it should be in a manner that everyone benefits in the same way, but at different times. For example, one race get's a 3% xp boost at night for x amount of time, while another would get it during the day.
    Why implementing something that shouldn't make a difference? To benefit everyone in the same way means to not benefit anyone ... so they could leave things the way they are now as well.

    Let's not joke about "Some may try to claim that equipment makes up for such, but it doesn't." ... the most kickass BLM I've ever seen playing FFXI was an elvan ... the "dumbest" class talking about INT ...

    Base stats were nothing more than a funny difference ... you could easily overcome that, with amazing results, adding fun to the game ... to see Taru Dark Knights enjoy the slaughter doing Insurgency, Galkas as summoner, "real human males" choosing Mithras only for their look without even thinking about stats etc. was really part of the fun ...
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    Last edited by Hollow; 08-30-2012 at 04:42 AM.
    "I like the stars. It's the illusion of permanence, I think. I mean, they're always flaring up and caving in and going out. But from here, I can pretend... I can pretend that things last. I can pretend that lives last longer than moments. Gods come, and gods go. Mortals flicker and flash and fade. Worlds don't last; and stars and galaxies are transient, fleeting things that twinkle like fireflies and vanish into cold and dust. But I can pretend."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollow View Post
    Why implementing something that shouldn't make a difference? To benefit everyone in the same way means to not benefit anyone ... so they could leave things the way they are now as well.

    Let's not joke about "Some may try to claim that equipment makes up for such, but it doesn't." ... the most kickass BLM I've ever seen playing FFXI was an elvan ... the "dumbest" class talking about INT ...

    Base stats were nothing more than a funny difference ... you could easily overcome that, with amazing results, adding fun to the game ... to see Taru Dark Knights enjoy the slaughter doing Insurgency, Galkas as summoner, "real human males" choosing Mithras only for their look without even thinking about stats etc. was really part of the fun ...
    Lol that's BS My elf friend was a kick ass blm and so was my taru friend and he could never get those 2k Freeze 2' @ 75 cap cause he was elf it's no denying that. A whm Galka could be lfg for hrs just like a fkin drg or pup cause who wantsa lvl 50 whm with same mp as a lvl 50 hume pld.
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