Upgrading the fabrication system

[princ3v4lli4nt]

I’m just putting an idea for the devs to but cast your vote field if you can. By me being a vet and quite most of the time crafting I would like to I’m tired of manually clicking items for at her wheel actions so I suggest that you guy upgrade it to where if you have the items iyou can auto craft the amount of items you you need instead of the old way please consider this for it will be a big help and good for future things dealing with the fc company workshop thanx for listening signing off Arata Shinigami ( Leader of Legendary Saints on Goblin Server)

[PeekayTom]

If I'm reading right, basically making auto-craft but for the FC workshop? Such as auto-crafting FC Buff Aetherial Wheels? I wouldn't be opposed to some degree. There's a lot of clicking to put in sets of 1/3 of the items at a time.

[Aidorouge]

It would also be nice if submitting HQ items ACTUALLY made a difference during construction.

[BigCheez]

I would rather they made everything into an expert craft, except crafting single food or pot gave you a stack of 25 instead of 3.

IMO the problem with crafting in modern FFXIV is that no one has any idea how it works any more they just (best case scenario) generate macros using webtools or (worst case scenrio) completely bot it with automation plogons.

[PeekayTom]

I would rather they made everything into an expert craft, except crafting single food or pot gave you a stack of 25 instead of 3.

IMO the problem with crafting in modern FFXIV is that no one has any idea how it works any more they just (best case scenario) generate macros using webtools or (worst case scenrio) completely bot it with automation plogons.

It's kind of a different problem to me personally; I know how the buttons all work together and can craft something by hand easily; but then I need to craft hundreds of a thing and it just becomes so endlessly tiring. Of course I'm going to make a macro to automate that.

[BigCheez]

It's kind of a different problem to me personally; I know how the buttons all work together and can craft something by hand easily; but then I need to craft hundreds of a thing and it just becomes so endlessly tiring. Of course I'm going to make a macro to automate that.

This is why my preference would be for a more engaging crafting system that creates larger stacks of an item. It would be more engaging and less repetitive.

[PeekayTom]

This is why my preference would be for a more engaging crafting system that creates larger stacks of an item. It would be more engaging and less repetitive.

That could be interesting! A "Singular" craft and a "Bulk" craft option that maybe turns it into an Expert Recipe, I could get behind that

[hydralus]

Make everything an expert recipe and you're giving botters almost 100% of the power on the market, as they will complete expert crafts far faster than humans who have to think about things. Would I be for it? Sure, but it doesn't really fix much of anything regarding the market aside from encouraging more people to get into botting to squeak out as much profit for as little brainpower as possible.

[BigCheez]

Make everything an expert recipe and you're giving botters almost 100% of the power on the market, as they will complete expert crafts far faster than humans who have to think about things. Would I be for it? Sure, but it doesn't really fix much of anything regarding the market aside from encouraging more people to get into botting to squeak out as much profit for as little brainpower as possible.

I believe the current bots still struggle with expert crafts until gear catches up to the point that they can be completed with macros. I was under the impression that they relied on Raphael as their solver and were pretty horrendous at actually making use of things like condition.

[VeyaAkemi]

I believe the current bots still struggle with expert crafts until gear catches up to the point that they can be completed with macros. I was under the impression that they relied on Raphael as their solver and were pretty horrendous at actually making use of things like condition.

There are bots that can solve Expert recipes under a number of parameters, they aren't perfect, but they don't need to be, so little development time, if any at all, is put towards them, increasing the need for Expert Recipes would make them need to be, and so more effort would be put into improving them. So long as something works under "If X do Y", it is bottable, the bot just needs to be marginally more sophisticated, and it is important to remember that botters vs developers is an arm's race.