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    Quote Originally Posted by Arwen2 View Post
    Biology is not binary and science continues to prove that it is a spectrum. And as more and more people get the care they need, the spectrum will continue to widen until people can no longer deny that intersex people or even animals that can change sex are not rare but actually more common than it’s given credit for. Denying this reality is the most harmful to humanity, and there is a lot that can be done about not causing someone pain or depression. For example by not denying the existence of non-binary. Denying this truth seems more like personal gain than it does promoting the well being of all. It is also silly and very strawman to think that my argument advocates for pushing kids to transition just because they like other kids toys. The advocating is for allowing children to be themselves and not forcing beliefs on a mind that is trying to develop. From the perspective that kids are being brainwashed sounds like people are scared of something they do not understand and would prefer putting children in conversion therapy over letting/supporting a child explore their inner most feelings without constraints. I see contradictory ideas that promote individuality and uniqueness in the same message that advocates for the eradication of the spectrum. So before people start to claim science on their side, they should first ask themselves what is most important: living free, happy, and included or segregated, bullied, and erased.
    It is a binary. Science continues to support this. There is no spectrum.
    You don't seem to understand what a binary is. Something that is either male, or female, or a mix of both, is still within the binary of male and female. It doesn't create a third thing; rather, its an exceptional case where the body is still fighting to be male, or female, or the lack of / overproduction of both hormones makes the body completely dysfunctional. Not just with their sex organs, but with other basic things like nutrient retention, bone density, and your immune system. Medical intervention is then required, which still ultimately will attempt to push the body to accept more testosterone (male) or estrogen (female) as its primary hormone. Sometimes that also doesn't work and gets more complicated. If anything, saying that you can just choose to identify or be non-binary is gross narcissism and insulting to those with real, physical, medical challenges

    Trans ideology lost/is losing most of its ground because of the refusal to leave kids alone. I have no issue saying that I want to eradicate the grooming and manipulation of children. I did not strawman you. Just because you don't have a good response doesn't mean you've been strawmanned.

    You seem very confused, do you care about science or feelings? You keep saying science proves your narrative (it doesn't), but your last comment is arguing that being "happy" is more important than science?

    By the way, every time a university gets a large grant to research the results of transitioning children they find that the overwhelming majority suffered from the experience. They refused to publish their studies in the name of "not being political" (and because some of that research would incriminate them). Most children would live perfectly normal lives just growing up and being gay, or just being more feminine/masculine than the average boy/girl.
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    Last edited by RaionKansen; 07-17-2026 at 12:51 AM.