lore-friendly transitioning methods

[Hazelx3]

"It does shorten life spans. Especially for women transitioning to men. The testosterone causes a lot of damage to the heart. The rates of self-harm also only increase as someone transtions as well. 3-4x more likely than cisgendered individuals just identifying as trans up to 12-13x more likely post-op."

Are you sure about that? If the level is similar to a cis-man it shouldn't do any damage to the FtM person.
Sure it might do damage, if it's overdosed, but that you can say to most stuff that is overdosed.
If testosterone was that bad, then every cis man would have problems, because of it.
But that's why good doctors do blood tests, to check if the hormone levels are normal.
As a transgender myself and being friends with trans people Im good informed about this stuff
most dangerous thing itself is the Operation below. Because you need really to choose a good doctor and see their results.
I know someone (another person that is MtF) where the doctor did a mistake and they now have to wear a urinary catheter
the Doctor himself was an unknown one

[RaionKansen]

"It does shorten life spans. Especially for women transitioning to men. The testosterone causes a lot of damage to the heart. The rates of self-harm also only increase as someone transtions as well. 3-4x more likely than cisgendered individuals just identifying as trans up to 12-13x more likely post-op."

Are you sure about that? If the level is similar to a cis-man it shouldn't do any damage to the FtM person.
Sure it might do damage, if it's overdosed, but that you can say to most stuff that is overdosed.
If testosterone was that bad, then every cis man would have problems, because of it.
But that's why good doctors do blood tests, to check if the hormone levels are normal.
As a transgender myself and being friends with trans people Im good informed about this stuff
most dangerous thing itself is the Operation below. Because you need really to choose a good doctor and see their results.
I know someone (another person that is MtF) where the doctor did a mistake and they now have to wear a urinary catheter
the Doctor himself was an unknown one

Yes, it requires constant supervision. Women's bodies aren't designed to process that much testosterone. They're 3-4x more likely to suffer from heart attack or strokes compared to cis women due to the changes in their cholesterol, blood pressure, and blood thickness. There's also risks of your insulin levels becoming too low. Your blood has to be monitored constantly. You're also more likely to put on a lot of weight which exacerbates both of these risks.

You have to spend the rest of your life taking the medication and having your blood monitored. There isn't an endpoint, and over time the body will struggle more and more to manage it. You'd just be left with a deeper voice, body hair, and most likely pattern baldness if you stopped medication. If the ovaries are removed AND medication is stopped, you add on a whole new set of imminent health risks.

Maybe health care is a lot better in other countries, but there's a lot of care facilities in America that obfuscate these risks and it leads to people getting hurt. Or, in the worst case scenario, someone just buys the medication online and seeks minimal professional guidance

[Hazelx3]

"Yes, it requires constant supervision. Women's bodies aren't designed to process that much testosterone. They're 3-4x more likely to suffer from heart attack or strokes compared to cis women due to the changes in their cholesterol, blood pressure, and blood thickness. There's also risks of your insulin levels becoming too low. Your blood has to be monitored constantly. You're also more likely to put on a lot of weight which exacerbates both of these risks."

Hmm, maybe it depends on the person itself who takes it, because every body is different.
The FtM person I knew, he was losing fat and build so much more muscles
He said he had more appetite, but I think thats normal
There might be for sure people who dont get along with this and have side effects

[Arwen2]

Yes, it requires constant supervision. Women's bodies aren't designed to process that much testosterone. They're 3-4x more likely to suffer from heart attack or strokes compared to cis women due to the changes in their cholesterol, blood pressure, and blood thickness. There's also risks of your insulin levels becoming too low. Your blood has to be monitored constantly. You're also more likely to put on a lot of weight which exacerbates both of these risks.

You have to spend the rest of your life taking the medication and having your blood monitored. There isn't an endpoint, and over time the body will struggle more and more to manage it. You'd just be left with a deeper voice, body hair, and most likely pattern baldness if you stopped medication. If the ovaries are removed AND medication is stopped, you add on a whole new set of imminent health risks.

Maybe health care is a lot better in other countries, but there's a lot of care facilities in America that obfuscate these risks and it leads to people getting hurt. Or, in the worst case scenario, someone just buys the medication online and seeks minimal professional guidance

It is important to point out that nothing has been said about the positive impact that transgender care and rights has on mental health. To live truly and accepted makes all the difference in the world. And the ideas of love, truth, and compassion are not these fairy tales ideas that exist only for the dreamers, these are ideas that can change the world. People can spiel outlier information that caters to their single minded thought, but the truth is not binary. And the longer we allow people to think in the binary, the more the world is filled with hate and under developed minds. The world is a beautiful collection of humans, and everyone is valid. Trying to convince the world otherwise, that there is only one man and one woman and anything outside of that is invalid, is exactly the type of thoughts that dehumanize humans and that’s horrific.

[RaionKansen]

It is important to point out that nothing has been said about the positive impact that transgender care and rights has on mental health. To live truly and accepted makes all the difference in the world. And the ideas of love, truth, and compassion are not these fairy tales ideas that exist only for the dreamers, these are ideas that can change the world. People can spiel outlier information that caters to their single minded thought, but the truth is not binary. And the longer we allow people to think in the binary, the more the world is filled with hate and under developed minds. The world is a beautiful collection of humans, and everyone is valid. Trying to convince the world otherwise, that there is only one man and one woman and anything outside of that is invalid, is exactly the type of thoughts that dehumanize humans and that’s horrific.

Well, the unfortunate reality is that any discussion about the negative impact has been heavily censored on the internet until the last few years. Also, life is really long. Transitioning makes you a life-long patient. What feels great in the moment, might not feel the same 30, 40, 50 years down the line when you're still reliant on constant medication and monitoring to perpetuate the choices you've made.

If someone wants to sign up for that, go ahead, but a lot of people don't understand what they're really signing up for and its a big part of why self-harm rates only increase the further along someone is in their transition.

You cannot change facts about biology. The world is pretty convinced of this. A lot of Europe is "returning to form" so to speak.

To me, real love, truth, and compassion would be to help someone overcome their Dysphoria/Dysmorphia instead of leading them down a lifelong path of treatment and risks to their life.
People have free will, they can totally choose to do that if they want to, but I don't think a lot of people seeking help or being encouraged to transition are looking at the long term.

There are always going to be exceptional people who can handle all of this, but most won't and that's where my compassion and concern is.

The world is already convinced that there are only men and women. You unnecessarily complicate your life and your existential issues by trying to exist outside of that. Even someone born with both organs can't escape it, you're still stuck within that binary. I'll also include my frustration that there are a lot of young girls, especially on the spectrum, that are being groomed and taken advantage of to be non-binary or trans in their teen years, which is the most vulnerable, confusing, and uncomfortable point in a girl's life, which is genuinely infuriating to me.

No one is being dehumanized except for maybe medical companies seeing dollar signs when they know they'll be getting a new lifelong patient.

[Arwen2]

Well, the unfortunate reality is that any discussion about the negative impact has been heavily censored on the internet until the last few years. Also, life is really long. Transitioning makes you a life-long patient. What feels great in the moment, might not feel the same 30, 40, 50 years down the line when you're still reliant on constant medication and monitoring to perpetuate the choices you've made…

The discussions of negative impacts are absolutely not censored, hence the posts about it in this very thread. That argument is equivalent to people saying they aren’t allowed to “say anything anymore” as they are literally saying things. The actual truth about biology is that it is definitely not binary, science is proving that more and more every day. As humans evolve, so should the ideas of existence evolve. Transgender people are very aware of long term commitments, it is their entire lives we are talking about here. If only people could understand that being surrounded by nay sayers and people constantly telling them that their care means “shortening their life span” creates an environment of pain and depression vs being surrounded by people who love and support them and help by spreading inclusion… oh what a world we could live in but choose not to. Real love and compassion isn’t discouraging care, real love and compassion is sponsoring and supporting a system that makes lifelong care manageable to have a chance at a beautiful life. What is truly infuriating is the idea that transgender people can only know themselves in adulthood, when almost all transgender people have known since they became self aware as children. If raised in an environment of love and acceptance, what brainwashing is even being referred to here? The only brainwashing I see are people trying to convince the world that we only exist in the black and white, and those are the type of ideas that dehumanize people.

[RaionKansen]

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You didn't read what I wrote. Biology is definitely binary. Everything science does is proving that. The body is only trying to be one or the other, even in the rare situations where someone is intersex; even in cases where animals are able to change their sex. Denying that reality is harming people, and more importantly, children. I cannot do anything about causing someone pain and depression by stating the way things are. Sometimes it's more important to speak the truth. That is a part of love. Real love and compassion is about the overall well-being of the individual at no personal gain.

You can't just support and sponsor everything someone wants to do. Trans children are being brainwashed. A child is not capable of making those kind of decisions or understanding those kind of concepts. A boy might say he wants to be a girl just because he saw a girl at school playing with a toy and she said he can't play with her because he's a boy. There's nothing wrong with a boy liking the same things a girl does or vice versa, but they do not have a deep existential crisis. Someone has to tell them that they were born in the wrong body and they have to believe it. Children are not in control of their perceived reality, especially during their first ten years of early development.

Its not about black and white and again, its not dehumanizing people. People are unique in their own way, but there are things we simply cannot do or cannot achieve. I can't ever become a woman for the same reasons I can't just deny gravity or surface tension and jump into a pool of water from 100ft up. The light at the end of the tunnel should be the love and affirmation of you being okay with being created just the way you are instead of deluding yourself until you feel somewhat comfortable yourself after a difficult, life-long, journey of medication and treatment. Which one sounds like a true solution?

This has gone too far off topic. I've spoken the truth that I wanted to share with you and I am done.

[Arwen2]

You didn't read what I wrote….

Biology is not binary and science continues to prove that it is a spectrum. And as more and more people get the care they need, the spectrum will continue to widen until people can no longer deny that intersex people or even animals that can change sex are not rare but actually more common than it’s given credit for. Denying this reality is the most harmful to humanity, and there is a lot that can be done about not causing someone pain or depression. For example by not denying the existence of non-binary. Denying this truth seems more like personal gain than it does promoting the well being of all. It is also silly and very strawman to think that my argument advocates for pushing kids to transition just because they like other kids toys. The advocating is for allowing children to be themselves and not forcing beliefs on a mind that is trying to develop. From the perspective that kids are being brainwashed sounds like people are scared of something they do not understand and would prefer putting children in conversion therapy over letting/supporting a child explore their inner most feelings without constraints. I see contradictory ideas that promote individuality and uniqueness in the same message that advocates for the eradication of the spectrum. So before people start to claim science on their side, they should first ask themselves what is most important: living free, happy, and included or segregated, bullied, and erased.

[Dikatis]

You’re clean looking into something that clearly that doesn’t exist. Do you have any proof yoshi intended to have everything you said, is?

Sure.

The most blatant example is while unlocking the Wanderer's Palace (Hard). The two treasure hunters you ran into in the original dungeon are a male Miqo'te and Hyur with this to share:

Steadfast Companion: We...we had grown rather fond of the tonberries while living amongst them. They have good hearts, no matter how odd their appearance. None of that should matter anyway. This fellow is Hyuran and I am Miqo'te; are we lesser a couple for our difference? I should think not!
Blundering Treasure Hunter: Well said, love! But much as we'd like to give the Silverscales the boot ourselves, we can't stand up to a cartload of Mamool Ja. So please, say ye'll do it in our place! The Wanderer's Palace is the only 'ome the tonberries 'ave got!

This is so blatantly and comfortably gay that it's impossible to deny, with any struggle in their relationship being from the stigma of interracial marriage.

Over by Camp Drybone, there's a male Lalafell who fantasizes in his sleep of being in Nanamo's place and ordering the very manly Raubahn to take him into his arms.

In "The Perfect Woman", a man falls in love with a female character on stage, only to learn that the actor is a man. This does not diminish his attraction:

Ijin Merchant: No... No, that simply cannot be. That is impossible. And yet... That voice. That neck. Those contours.
Agile Actor: As a man grown you should know─every man knows far more of the female form than any woman. That is how I am able to portray the woman of every man's dreams. And so you know the truth. What, then, of your fantasies now? Shattered, are they?
Ijin Merchant: No... No, they are far from shattered. I feel stronger towards you now than ever! I regret that I must soon depart Kugane, but my business will bring me here again soon. And when it does, I will come and see you at every show!
Agile Actor: Then on such evenings I will be sure I am at my most beautiful for you.
Ijin Merchant: This city is truly a marvel, is it not? The culture here is far more rich and complex than any other I've seen or known. I will be back, again and again, and again and again! Thank you, adventurer. You have given me a great gift this day.

We also have Ser Haurchefant, who is blatantly attracted to WoL regardless of gender because his type is "brawny, brave adventurers" and outright wants to take them as "his steed" during Heavensturn. The Japanese script even has him invite them into his bed. Again, regardless of gender.

Ascians can inhabit male or female bodies. The Eden raids establish that Mitron and Loghrif were deeply in love since before the Sundering. "Days Gone By, Days Yet to Come" explicitly establishes them as a pair of women and they remained in love even after Mitron reincarnated as a man.

Hythlodaeus's feet carried him up the gentle rise leading to the institution's grand doors, past which he spied two women he recognized, their cheerful banter a familiar duet.

"Mitron, Loghrif. A pleasure as always. I gather the meeting is concluded?"

"Well met, Hythlodaeus. It ended but a moment ago, yes," replied Mitron, before flashing a knowing smile. "I believe they're both still inside."

And there are many, many more examples.

Non-heteronormativity is everywhere in FF14. It's just subtle enough to not ruffle Chinese censors.

[Burmecia]

Biology is not binary and science continues to prove that it is a spectrum. And as more and more people get the care they need, the spectrum will continue to widen until people can no longer deny that intersex people or even animals that can change sex are not rare but actually more common than it’s given credit for. Denying this reality is the most harmful to humanity [...]

nature absolutely has massive variety in phenotypes and how procreation is arranged, and disorders in individual development shuffle the deck too-- if one wants to account every possible and even theoretical variation. but not all transitioning is about procreation, because not every transitioning person cares about procreation.

it's not bullying to point out that studies have shown that when untampered and "healthy" hormone balance in body is altered it can -and will- have effects when specific tresholds are passed. like biologically female body dying before it's time when it's testosterone levels are altered to be way higher than they would be without that manual alteration.
i think it's called informed consent the there is keyword hiding in plain sigh: informed.

why is it called healthcare? because it alleviates their psychological distress about their gender, and that healing effect of mind is real, too, and for people who take that road it's worth it and that's what matters. two things can be true at once.

disclaimer: i'm someone with condition which is sometimes, recently, counted among the intersexed condition, and lifelong medical patient (different diagnosis to my pseudo-intersexed thing); of different kind to someone having hrt, but i go to hospital to meet my doctor for the controls and take my infusions all the same. my med shortens my life expextency AND it's 100% worth it for the other effects, like my body not rotting away and even more disabled even faster

i'm sorry if i sounded truescum af. i see less and less reason to be fearful of bad words every day.