A New Synthesis Mechanic

[Zhyrios]

I have been crafting on culinarian lately and I find the lack of simplistic recipes unnerving.

For grinding exp I have to rely on crafting fish into sand, and that makes me sad, because when I'm levelling Culinarian, I want to feel like one.

But the recipes that would make me feel like I really am a chef take too many ingredients that grinding for exp on them is purely inefficient.

So I devised a new crafting mechanic.

Take the recipe for Blood Currant Tarts for an example:

1: Blood Currants
2: Maple Sugar
3: Salted Butter
4: Pie Dough
5: Sun Lemon
6: Natron
7: Gridanian Walnut
8: Mineral Water

As you can see, its completely unrealistic to expect to grind on something like that.
First thing that came to my head was for them to simplify recipes like they did for every other crafter, However a lot of people like this, and it can be nice to make you feel immersed as a high-quality chef.

However the system I devised would keep the best of both worlds, what I am suggesting is a crafting mechanic where each recipe has a set of simple minimum required ingredients and a set of optional ingredients to increase quality/HQ% chance.

So let's look at the recipe for Blood Currant Tarts again but with my new system in mind:

1: Blood Currants (required)
2: Maple Sugar (required)
3: Salted Butter (required)
4: Pie Dough (required)
5: Mineral Water (required)
6: Natron (required)
7: Sun Lemon (optional - HQ+5%)
8: Gridanian Walnut (optional - HQ+5%)

As you can see the ability to use this recipe to grind exp increases, however it keeps its complexity for those not grinding exp and rather, grinding them for money/quality.

However this idea can be applied to all the other crafts too and wouldn't necessarily have to apply to every single recipe where it makes sense to be basic.

They can also add items to the already simplistic recipes of other crafts as optional flairs for higher quality.

If there's anything you don't understand, let me know and please discuss with your thoughts and ideas!

[KiriA500]

I'm currently farming up materials for Culinary, and I disagree on changing how it is. There are single item options, or a few with less ingredients (such as 6 of the same item, instead of 6 separate items). The items in question require a lot, because the end result has such a good bonus.

I suggest you take up fishing, or just burn through leves.

[Zhyrios]

I'm currently farming up materials for Culinary, and I disagree on changing how it is. There are single item options, or a few with less ingredients (such as 6 of the same item, instead of 6 separate items). The items in question require a lot, because the end result has such a good bonus.

I suggest you take up fishing, or just burn through leves.

If you didn't read my post at all I'll remind you.

I'm grinding on fish for the efficiency of being able to grind without the hassle of needing to farm or buy stacks of 8 separate ingredients. But what I'm getting at is, that doesn't make me feel like a Culinarian, it's bad for my immersion into a job I should enjoy. I've been making nothing but sand the whole way.

[KiriA500]

If you didn't read my post at all I'll remind you.

I'm grinding on fish for the efficiency of being able to grind without the hassle of needing to farm or buy stacks of 8 separate ingredients. But what I'm getting at is, that doesn't make me feel like a Culinarian, it's bad for my immersion into a job I should enjoy. I've been making nothing but sand the whole way.

Yes, and there are items clearly in place for spamming on for EXP. That one you listed is not one of them.

You say it ruins your immersion...yet it's more accurate to cook in real life (lol). How delicious would a pie be in the real world if the chef left out half the ingredients because he wanted to "get better at making pies?"

[Jennestia]

I actually prefer the current setup for culinary over other DoH because looking at it from a "realistic standpoint" it makes sense given how much ingredients you get in general and can find -- the "simplified change" to others made sense because a lot of it required you to basically level every other DoH to do one synth on the main DoH you're trying to level.

Culinarian is basically self-sufficient in that manner, especially if you level DoL so you don't have to buy your ingredients.

[Zhyrios]

I actually prefer the current setup for culinary over other DoH because looking at it from a "realistic standpoint" it makes sense given how much ingredients you get in general and can find -- the "simplified change" to others made sense because a lot of it required you to basically level every other DoH to do one synth on the main DoH you're trying to level.

Culinarian is basically self-sufficient in that manner, especially if you level DoL so you don't have to buy your ingredients.

Indeed but to quote you on realism.

Realism is what fuels my idea more than anything. you don't need lemons and nuts in real life to make a currant tart.
But you'd add them if you wanted quality.

The crafting ingredients for recipes as a whole would not change, but it would be more dynamic and realistic.

[Ricky]

I got my Luminary pan off of turning fish into sand.. I am such an amazing chef
At least when you DO make good thing like lava toad legs or crowned cakes they sell for a LOT

[Vassteel1]

You obviously know nothing about cooking

my question is have you every actually cooked anything before?

[Zhyrios]

You obviously know nothing about cooking

my question is have you every actually cooked anything before?

Actually yes, I cook a lot, I also know that you don't have to add exotic ingredients to every single thing you cook to get an average and good tasting meal - but when you do then it's special and extra delicious. This is realism, and the exact same system I'm proposing.

Have YOU ever cooked anything before, and I mean actually cooked using your brain, not just followed the guide in a recipe book word for word.

[Estellios]

I leveled up cooking making actual items and it's not bad at all once you know where everything is and actually look at multiple recipes. You just picked a horrible item to XP off of.

Cornbread is a little under blood currant tarts but everything is bought from NPC.

After that Scrambled Eggs and Acorn Cookies are available with ingredients you can buy or that gatherers get by the boatload and should be cheap.

Also FYI you may spend money on making those tarts but you could easily make a profit as blood currant tarts are the 2nd tier magic attack food and you can price them above the cost to make but below the pastry fish/crownd cakes.