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    A few Fishing QoL suggestions

    1) The UI for the Fishing Log should actually display the preferred bait for a given fish, when hovered over, if you have caught it.

    2) Bait and Lures should be like Allied Society currency or Retainer Ventures where it doesn't occupy the inventory and is instead stored in the tacklebox. Those examples used to be inventory clutter if you remember.

    3) Gathering Rate above the required amount to catch a fish should lower the slip chance of that fish down to 0% if sufficiently high enough Gathering Rate. Like if you are doing ARR fishing, lets say big fishing, and you have best in slot fishing gear from Dawntrail. As otherwise it doesn't make sense to have high gathering if you have 4000+, but a fish from ARR with a required gathering rating of 397 to 403 still slips.
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    I also think for special zones like the current stellar exploration, these fish need to either be in the fishing log, or have their own special one. It's annoying having ~no information about the fishing holes and fishes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carighan View Post
    I also think for special zones like the current stellar exploration, these fish need to either be in the fishing log, or have their own special one. It's annoying having ~no information about the fishing holes and fishes.
    True its part of a quiet annoyance I have with CE.

    Also big fishing could use a bit more value behind it to make it actually more meaningful. As something I realized is that big fishing loses a lot of its value if you're free trial. As the big fishes don't desynth well, they don't vendor well, the whole aquarium and angler's print aspects are nonfactors because not even island sanctuary lets a free trial put aquariums outdoors when they will get access to dawntrail 2 years from now. So the only value is to link it from the inventory if its there, and for the fishing log, and for the eventual achievements for collecting enough. That the value of a big fish, with such restrictions in place, is otherwise about comparable to a merlthor goby found outside the fisher's guild.
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    More I think on this fishing should have an endgame grind to turn big fish into vendor-specific currency and that vendor would sell you a variety of services based on the currency you acquired with them.

    Service 1) A soul crystal, Soul of the Fisher, while equipped, the 1% innate slip chance doesn't apply.
    Service 2) Enchantments for gear (rod, armor, and accesories) which each different enchant on a slot could apply a different benefit.
    Service 3) Unique food that only applies to the activities of fishing and spearfishing.
    Service 4) What I will call "Weather Pearls". They are 1-use items, each with a different weather associated, you use it and it causes the weather to change for that player or players if they are in a party. So for example if its raining in Tuliyollal, pop one to change the weather and you can now attempt to fish up a Purse of Riches, and if you do, you can sell it to the same vendor to get better fishing stuff, that you still need to catch big fish to make use of the system.
    Service 5) The ability to upgrade and turn the fishing gig into a relic.
    Service 6) High quality Hi-Cordials.

    So for an example of a couple of enchantments:
    Shadowbringers/Endwalker/Dawntrail Relic Fishing Rod Enchant = The chance to reduce GP cost by 50% for Powerful Hookset and Precision Hookset is guaranteed.
    Head Enchant = +2 passive GP regeneration while fishing or spearfishing.
    Ring Enchant 1 = Reduces the rate at which the wariness gauge increases while spearfishing.
    Ring Enchant 2 = Bait and lures will only attract fish who its their preferred bait.
    Shoes Enchant 1 = Fish no longer sense something amiss.
    Shoes Enchant 2 = Swim speed is greatly increased.
    Shoes enchant 3 = Ability to walk and sprint on water, applies to self and also mount.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chasingstars View Post
    2) Bait and Lures should be like Allied Society currency or Retainer Ventures where it doesn't occupy the inventory and is instead stored in the tacklebox. Those examples used to be inventory clutter if you remember.
    Baits should work like the old spearfishing gig heads, basically like a stance. With a limited array of baits, some for freshwater, some for saltwater and some special baits and that's it.

    We had 3 spearfishing gig heads and they didn't took up inventory space.
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    It’s a good thing not to answer your enemies. I scarcely ever do. Perhaps Emily is more like me than I am like myself. Perhaps she would rather not answer her friends, even. She keeps it all in her heart.

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    Fishers should be able to fish specific fish they want like the miners and botanists do. I'm getting really tired of the crap rng on everything else here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saber02 View Post
    Fishers should be able to fish specific fish they want like the miners and botanists do. I'm getting really tired of the crap rng on everything else here.
    I am thinking I'd kinda dislike that, because I enjoy the random nature of fishing in general in MMORPGs. But then again, gathering has a unique system in FFXIV already, that can get quite elaborate. Maybe they ought to use a copy of the system for fishing, too. After all all crafters share their system, would make sense for all gatherers to do so, too.
    (or, alternatively, separate Botanists and Miners and make them use different systems!)
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    Is it too strong to suggest “powerfuller hookset” a third hookset that is designed specifically for !!! Catches (even if it doesn’t have the chance of guaranteeing them and costs more GP)

    Doing anything where the window of a !!! Is filled with far more common !!’s get frustrating because it feels like you have no control over it. I prefer RNG with some measure of control which is why I like the hookset’s
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    And then we'll get powerfullest hookset for !!!! catches in the future? :P At some point we'll be sharing job quests with Warriors.

    (Fisher branching off of Warrior who calms his rage by fishing would be kinda cute, ngl - Reaper is just aggro-Botanist, anyways)
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    Fishing windows that don't expect you to arrange your life around them would also be awesome.
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