So, when is VPR getting nerfs? (Frontline)

[UseYour]

lol you can whine all you like. i play on controller too. its not that hard. "track who is healing" every player roll is clearly indicated. you can focus target people. you can use in-game macro to target your focus to quickly get back to them. hell, you could set up a macro to LB your focus target, so you dont even need to target them first. the tools are there.

as for viper. it's problematic in FL but, if people would get off ranged and start fighting melee with melee. monk gets 50% damage reduction in FL. earth's reply for quick healing. you can wind's reply vipers (and dancers. and dark knights) who are running in. you can LB them to disrupt. its not impossible

You play on controller but have punctuation and spellcheck turned off to make that many errors? So you must actually be on PC typing this on keyboard manually, while telling me to use a dozen different macros in a poorly designed console port that has nowhere near the same level of customization freedom or addons and UI changes a pc user with optional use controller experiences? I already have 3 different full crossbars memorized for pve monk, a 4th for pvp, now your professional opinion is to memorize another dozen macros just for target swapping and LBing people? I already got 50+ keybinds memorized through multiple button combination inputs and thats still not enough yet huh. When does the FF14 dev team step in and fix their convoluted mess so we can target things intuitively and not rely on macros and more crossbar clutter? Id love to play a 2 button class like you. Ungabunga warrior main teach me how play smart

[Divinemights]

as for viper. it's problematic in FL but, if people would get off ranged and start fighting melee with melee. monk gets 50% damage reduction in FL. earth's reply for quick healing. you can wind's reply vipers (and dancers. and dark knights) who are running in. you can LB them to disrupt. its not impossible

Yes, I agreed.
We have to admit that Patch 7.5 Viper did attract a bunch of mediocre players away from ranged jobs.

Are multiple Vipers going to become a serious threat?
Unlikely. Viper mostly preys on ranged players who are not paying attention.
Against other melee jobs, they are a meme at best.

In recent Frontline matches, whenever Vipers run into alliances stacked with melee players, their performance drops off hard.
At the very least, this change may push people off ranged jobs and onto melee jobs, where they can start learning attack timing, target selection, and how to properly secure kills.

[ChrysOCE]

Yes, I agreed.
We have to admit that Patch 7.5 Viper did attract a bunch of mediocre players away from ranged jobs.

Are multiple Vipers going to become a serious threat?
Unlikely. Viper mostly preys on ranged players who are not paying attention.
Against other melee jobs, they are a meme at best.

In recent Frontline matches, whenever Vipers run into alliances stacked with melee players, their performance drops off hard.
At the very least, this change may push people off ranged jobs and onto melee jobs, where they can start learning attack timing, target selection, and how to properly secure kills.

Absolutely. The avg viper isnt that much of a threat. But it is a bit more problematic with people who do know how to play the job. But, honestly, that same could be said about any job lol

[ChrysOCE]

You play on controller but have punctuation and spellcheck turned off to make that many errors? So you must actually be on PC typing this on keyboard manually, while telling me to use a dozen different macros in a poorly designed console port that has nowhere near the same level of customization freedom or addons and UI changes a pc user with optional use controller experiences? I already have 3 different full crossbars memorized for pve monk, a 4th for pvp, now your professional opinion is to memorize another dozen macros just for target swapping and LBing people? I already got 50+ keybinds memorized through multiple button combination inputs and thats still not enough yet huh. When does the FF14 dev team step in and fix their convoluted mess so we can target things intuitively and not rely on macros and more crossbar clutter? Id love to play a 2 button class like you. Ungabunga warrior main teach me how play smart

PVE monk has something like 21-24 actions to assign to hotbar. Plus another 6 role actions. With sprint and LB, that's what, 29-32 actions. Not that dissimilar to any other job.

PVP monk has 7 actions to assign, plus role action, plus standard PVP actions, plus LB - 12 actions

Why do you need to memorize 50+ keybinds for pvp?

Stop blaming your own inadequacies on the game

And no, I'm not a warrior main anymore. But you keep being you.

[Naizakane]

The viper can get domed in half a second by an enemy alliance's phys ranged before they can even press snake scales, so how is one viper putting up a strong performance in spite of that grounds for nerfing it?

[UseYour]

Stop blaming your own inadequacies on the game

And no, I'm not a warrior main anymore. But you keep being you.

My PvP hotbar has 15 buttons on it actually, and only 1 macro which highlights my target. You want to compare averages? Saying all jobs are equal? My burst rotation opener - we are not including limit break, execute, my phantom rush build up, CC breaks, sprinting back into position etc. Just the buttons i have to use to walk into a team fight and use every 15 seconds to not get called a feeder or afker: 10 inputs in 6 seconds, where i have to watch my own animations to cancel them with other animations because just clicking buttons whenever i want dont work. The server delay will cancel me midcombo if im a millisecond off not casting anything making all my empowers or positioning out of place, or if i do follow up with LB/execute the person is half hp instead of 0 hp.

Since you love doing deep dives into my life calling me inadequate while im over here playing guitar hero on expert mode with my xbox controller double inputs, that put put "engine that could" lil brain of yours is out here strugglin with Fireball I > Fireball II > Empowered Flare for 50k AoE. Why are you so quick to call out others while lying about the peripherals you use and giving out terrible advice to someone without 3rd party addons access? I bet you got a giant flashing count down on your screen with audio alerts telling you which button is next in your rotation. And i know that stuff is true because ive done mythic WoW raids with people who use addons and they got so much hand holding on their UI they cant even see the fire they stand in so they use an addon to tell em GTFO THE FIRE too. You pc gamers are a joke and you taking FF14 seriously is like an adult taking roblox seriously. You have no idea how watered down FF14 content is in the big wide world of MMOs but you love to wear the guise of an elitist pro. A top 100 FF14 pvper has the mechanical skill of a hardstuck silver in any other competive game. Seriously, where do you think your extensive knowledge of 2 second GCD tab target macro mashing wall peeks transfer over to? Youd get rolled by the first kid in league of legends that has enough mechanical skill to manually click your character before mashing ADAD1212ADAD1212 thats all you are, a LoL kid without the basic mouse aim. Catch a hint and get some humility.