Quote Originally Posted by Zeovalguar View Post
Yes please. Rework this job broken beyond measure. 60% damage reduction plus 50% extra when using Snake Scales? 4k barrier that when broken unleashes an AoE with same range as a Macrocosmos and 100% lifeleech? And it can be recast again using Rattling Coil, which also can pretty much be recast whenever the vpr gets a kill or an assist?
Again, my response will be largely focused on FL, rather than CC:

The recent HP regain from LB in addition to the Bloodbath updates has certainly given VPR a huge boost and it was already a pretty good class. That said, changes would need to be made somewhat cautiously to avoid pushing it into the realms of DRK nerfs, where the class needs a lot of hand-holding to make it viable.

The class design basically rewards anyone willing to take the lead and push on the frontlines - a role that 90% of the FL playerbase outright refuse to do. As such, a large proportion of VPR players are FL regulars, which may give a slightly skewed view of the class - those players will be very good at whatever class they play, so some of VPRs apparent strength will be partially due to player ability/experience.


I get that when first introduced the job was lackluster but now is just a pain to deal with them, they don't really have counters and they just stall and stall and make the match a drag.

The "just use RPR or DNC lb bro" excuse doesn't work if you need to use a limit break to counter a single job, it's simply unbalanced.
Just focus it down, and you don't really need a counter if it's just a typical solo VPR. Part of the issue, as I mentioned in my post above, is that teams are usually split on how to manage it.

That said, if you did find that your team were having difficulties taking down a VPR, there's various things to try to help take them down:

MNK LB or RPR LB can be very helpful to cancel scales, especially given they both have quite short CD times. I feel that DNC LB just for a VPR would be a huge waste, though.

But LBs aren't the only option. Rust and Lethargy are also pretty good, reducing their damage dealt, reducing their HP regain, and slowing their escape.
Silences as they jump in before they get chance to apply scales. Diabrosis and Biolysis, both reducing the VPRs self healing.
There's many combinations, many options beyond pure damage, if only players put some thought into the skills they use rather than blindly smashing the keyboard.