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Thread: Rework Viper

  1. #11
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    RaionKansen's Avatar
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    Raion Kansen
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    VPR not having a "shed skin" personal mit on release is wild
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    Altria Pendragons
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeovalguar View Post
    Sure, very useful, why didn't I think of that?
    Will remember that when we're trying to capture a node and a VPR approaches us. Let's all just run away and let them capture the nodes instead. Peak gameplay.
    So this is about Frontline and not Crystalline Conflict?
    Then why are you worrying about Viper when jobs like Dancer are a much bigger priority target?
    In large scale group fights, the entire point is to reduce enemy numbers as quickly as possible by focusing weak links first.
    That usually means targeting jobs like Bard or Machinist, jobs often played by PvE-oriented players or picking off a Dancer because they’re both threatening and relatively easy to kill.
    So what’s the logic behind focus-firing a Viper that clearly isn’t outputting enough damage to justify being your primary target?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeovalguar View Post
    Sure, very useful, why didn't I think of that?

    Will remember that when we're trying to capture a node and a VPR approaches us. Let's all just run away and let them capture the nodes instead. Peak gameplay.
    Let's be real here. Y'all never actually bothered to fight to capture nodes before any of this. VPR is just the new excuse.

    I see how a majority of y'all play on Onsal, Worqor, and Seize, spending the entire match chasing rank B nodes and avoiding PvP when you can. Y'all definitely don't fight over nodes on Secure and run away to play ping-pong with uncontested nodes. Shatter.... lol.

    Even then, how is VPR capturing any nodes that requires clicking when they're AFK channeling scales for 4 seconds? Even if it isn't the VPR, what are y'all doing while the BH0 bard behind them is capturing the node? Staring at the VPR for four seconds? DRK (and DNC) have better kits to stop you from advancing to block a capture than a VPR does.
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    Tyrus Thayde
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    thats literally my point. If the only counter to it is win the matchmaker lottery where you get a coordinated team of MLG pros bursting down 1 target at a time then staggering spawns etc like why am i wasting my time typing everyone with a brain knows a class is busted beyond belief if the only counters are play like its a money tournament or run away in fear itll go pentakill during a 30 second solo stall.. Why defend it when your only defense against its basic rotation is the same advice youd give to someone about a 2 minute cooldown ultimate combo move ffs
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    Quote Originally Posted by UseYour View Post
    why am i wasting my time typing everyone with a brain knows the ... only counters are to make an effort and put a tiny amount of thought into your skill use
    Fixed that for you
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    Mayu Amakura
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    Remove or backtrack lifesteal and issue is fixed. Or you know what's better? How about we remove stupid role actions that made everything dumb and broken.
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