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  1. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stufoo View Post
    Nice. Not only were you objectively wrong about it, you had zero testing or stat knowledge to back it up but posted it anyway. That was your entire post, "Stufoo is wrong because I say so", you had nothing else to contribute. Don't act like you are a good poster or a victim. I told you why VIT was better to meld there and you continued to disagree for ten pages because you don't know how block rate, block power, VITEF, VIT:mDEF, or defense itself works and you disagree that HP was a nice bonus, and at that point, honestly, why should I bother with you?
    You're right in that before that thread, I didn't know VIT contributed to block rate. (That's mostly because my main is WAR, not PLD. In which case, my application of DEF over VIT after a certain amount of VIT is 100% accurate.) However, go back and read that thread. After I got a solid explanation did I argue any more for DEF over VIT? No, I didn't. I even changed my stragey for melds based on that thread. I'll argue with you when you present yourself as arrogant and completely full of yourself.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stufoo View Post
    Your misunderstandings of this game are such a clusterfuck I almost don't know where to begin, and I'm not your babysitter, I don't care if you ever beat anything in this game. You flat out call us all no-lifers because we are competent and actually progress in this game, and you honestly expect respect back?
    This shit is why I attack you. The only purpose it serves is to get get me to respond emotionally by way of harassment, that's called trolling. You are simply trying to make yourself look better than me by lashing out and attacking me. Guess what though, it's against the TOS, and I report you for it every time. Sometimes it gets me a ban because of my response to it, but whatever. Keep it up and see whare it gets you. I've got to give you credit where credit is due, you're a fantastic troll. You get the response you're looking for.
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    Last edited by Molly_Millions; 09-26-2012 at 09:39 PM.

  2. #52
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    I'm okay with being an asshole. Troll. Douchebag. Asshat. Whatever you say. In the end, between you and me. We know what's up, and beneath your skin is pretty comfy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Molly_Millions View Post
    After I got a solid explanation did I argue any more for DEF over VIT? No, I didn't. I even changed my stragey for melds based on that thread.
    You shouldn't have said anything in the first place because by your rules...

    Quote Originally Posted by Molly_Millions View Post
    When I'm giving advice, it's usually because I think I'm right, otherwise why would i be giving it?
    You had absolutely zero reason to believe you were right because you blatantly said in the very first page that you didn't know what defense and VIT did and asked for testing. You should have no say in the topic because you don't understand it. How is this concept hard to imagine for you? This is exactly why I told you to stop posting. You do this all the time. You have no experience or understanding and are unfit to give advice.

    If you were wondering, the proper thing for you to have posted in that thread is "Why did you choose to meld VIT over DEF?" If you would have liked a longer post, you could have elaborated with how you think the stats work, and why you think that defense is "vastly more beneficial". Anything else is, in my mind, and through your own admission, out of line.

    There is a reason I don't ask for testing on things because I do it myself or go to Kaeko's blog. When I make a post, I double and often triple check numbers and reference parses and test summaries. Until you at least put forth some effort into research and optimization, you honestly should stop acting like an authority of paladin. Posting a screenshot of some pants with lifethirst that you wanted to blow up in the first place, M.eva boots, and constantly making excuses for other things seems like very low effort to me, like you don't care about your paladin at all.

    And trust me, I get it, you're low on gil and don't have much chance to blow up HQs and IVs 24/7 like others. Fine. I get it, you're not in the best linkshell and it's fairly social and you help each other with AFs and have fun in skirmish. That's absolutely fine. Enjoy the game however you want. I am not and will not mock you for those things.

    I mock you for your hubris.
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    Last edited by Stufoo; 09-26-2012 at 10:04 PM.

  3. #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stufoo View Post
    I'm okay with being an asshole. Troll. Douchebag. Asshat.
    Sweet, then we'll continue down this road, hopefully resulting in a permanent ban. Attack away!
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    Last edited by Molly_Millions; 09-26-2012 at 09:44 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Molly_Millions View Post
    You're right in that before that thread, I didn't know VIT contributed to block rate.
    You edited your post so let me respond to this in a post that hopefully you won't report as harassment just because it's correcting you.

    VIT does not contribute to block rate. It contributes to block power, at a 2VIT:1Block ratio. This means, since 1 block is .2% more mitigated damage on an attack that you block, that +10 VIT = an extra 1% damage off of blocked attacks, not counting the 6.66 defense you get as well. Power is slightly better than Rate from gear focus as well since there are a few ways to force or enhance block rate that meld well with the tempo of an endgame fight. For instance, you can get up to 45-50% parsed block rate through divine veil timing alone on Ifrit Extreme if you learn his AI pattern and get in rhythm with him. While Divine Veil is on cooldown, Ifrit is likely to be doing special moves, especially at the end of the fight. Block rate does nothing for you during this time, and block power can shine. Personally, I stop 41~44% of Ifrit's damage with every block, depending on what pants I'm wearing and if I bothered to eat a trapper's quiche instead of an omelette.

    DEX contributes to block rate in the same fashion. Generally, native block rate on bosses is abysmally low by most standards and you manage forced blocks through proper use of your abilities, somewhat negating the bonuses of gearing for block rate.

    Saying you brought WAR advice over to the PLD forum is one more thing I hope lets you self-examine why you post here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stufoo View Post
    You edited your post so let me respond to this in a post that hopefully you won't report as harassment just because it's correcting you.

    VIT does not contribute to block rate. It contributes to block power, at a 2VIT:1Block ratio. This means, since 1 block is .2% more mitigated damage on an attack that you block, that +10 VIT = an extra 1% damage off of blocked attacks, not counting the 6.66 defense you get as well. Power is slightly better than Rate from gear focus as well since there are a few ways to force or enhance block rate that meld well with the tempo of an endgame fight. For instance, you can get up to 45-50% parsed block rate through divine veil timing alone on Ifrit Extreme if you learn his AI pattern and get in rhythm with him. While Divine Veil is on cooldown, Ifrit is likely to be doing special moves, especially at the end of the fight. Block rate does nothing for you during this time, and block power can shine. Personally, I stop 41~44% of Ifrit's damage with every block, depending on what pants I'm wearing and if I bothered to eat a trapper's quiche instead of an omelette.
    Too little too late. Thanks to another poster, I already knew all of this. (Never mind my misquote above regarding block rate vs block power.) At this point it's wasted effort on your part. This response belonged in the other thread, immediately following my post about DEF being better than VIT. Instead you took the opportunity to attack me without making a proper correction.

    I won't report you when you don't make inappropriate posts to attack me. I'm fine with having an open and honest discussion with you, or anyone else here, but your attacks have no place. Contrary to what you obviously think, I'm a pretty reasonable guy. If your post is filled with rage, I'm not going to reason with you, and at that point why should I? Don't come at me thinking you're god's gift to MMOs, I don't care about your opinion of yourself. Come at me with facts not emotion. But at this point, you have a really long way to go to win any respect back that you might have had if you had not attacked me so ferociously.
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    Last edited by Molly_Millions; 09-27-2012 at 12:06 AM.

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    I updated my STR/MND caps page with testing on MND -> AA damage

    It doesn't show my testing because there was no need to parse it.

    The just of it is, MND increases AA more than STR.

    Since MND effects WS, AA, Healing Magic Potency it is by far the single most important stat for PLD.
    (and of course the Enmity Multipliers, but it's capped so low...~240)
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    Last edited by Judge_Xero; 09-27-2012 at 12:06 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashiee View Post
    Kaeko says Molly is right.
    this wasn't a troll post btw
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    another knowledge bomb from the kaeko
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    Awe! You made a signature dedicated to me!


    I didn't know you cared so much Brann. Abaddon thanks you for the free advertisement. I think "no press is bad press" applies. :P
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    Last edited by Molly_Millions; 09-27-2012 at 08:46 PM.

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    I think Molly Millions is the new Amy Neudaiz
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